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They're going to come with everything they got.
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So how about the Amuse?
How about that?
They are really good and they have had 10 comebacks this year in just over a month of the season.
I mean you turn them on, they're down three nothing to the Royals last night and they come back to win 11 to 7.
We're going to do Orioles preview as we always do on Wednesday at 1030 due to be joined by Ben McDonald
of the Masson broadcast crew who was once the number one number one pick of the draft in 1989.
And then 30 years later here comes Adley Ruchman.
So I want to talk to him about you know what it's like the pressure that he faced.
Ben McDonald pitched seven years for the Orioles.
He won 58 games.
Didn't have a Hall of Fame career obviously.
Was a good pitcher not a great pitcher.
But the expectation when you are the number one number one pick of the draft is that you're going to be great.
And maybe people start to talk to you is to talk about you as a Hall of Famer.
We had that with Steven Strasburg.
That's not going to happen because he's probably not going to pitch again.
But right now Ruchman looks like the real deal and well worth the number one pick of the 2019 draft.
We'll get to that.
And also we're due to talk to a boxer.
Suleiman Sagawa who is going to be fighting on Saturday night at the entertainment and sports arena down in Southeast as the battle of the beltways returns some boxing stuff.
We're going to do that in the 10 o'clock hour as well.
But what everybody's talking about today is what Anthony Davis did last night.
Truth be told didn't stay up to watch it.
But I've seen the highlights have read a lot about it.
Have listened to a lot of what people have had to say about it.
And you know that's a performance that I don't think a lot of people saw coming.
He's still a great player.
But he's always hurt.
He missed 20 games during a big stretch of the season.
And although he was good at times against Memphis, he also had games where you know it wasn't so great.
And all this talk was about Steph versus LeBron that this was the rematch of what had happened for straight years in the NBA finals when Cleveland would play Golden State every year.
Golden State won two or three of those.
And Cleveland won the other the year that Golden State had 73 wins.
So that was what everybody was talking about.
But Anthony Davis last night came up huge for the Lakers.
He had 30 points, 23 rebounds, five assists, four blocks, made some key plays down the stretch after Golden State did what they do.
They had a 14-0 rally to tie the game late.
Games seemed out of reach and they came back to tie it.
But the Lakers were able to put the game away.
Steph was mortal Steph last night.
He had 27 points though.
They were reigning threes and they had 21 threes to the Lakers six.
The problem is you probably needed three or four more because of the way Anthony Davis was playing in the paint at both ends of the court.
And they just really had no answer for him.
We'll get into what they might do in game two coming up tomorrow night, which by the way is a more reasonable time for us.
It tips off at nine o'clock.
Games tipping off at 10.
You want to stick around for the end.
You're looking well past midnight on that.
You're looking at close to one o'clock in the morning.
A little bit better.
It's still going to be close to midnight.
By the time this wraps up, games usually go two and a half, maybe 240.
So there's still a late night, but that extra hour does make a difference.
And I think the NBA, Tony said this last night on PTI and he's like me.
We go to bed real early.
But the NBA should look at this and say this is the marquee matchup.
Let's get all these games on at eight o'clock so that most people can see them.
Yeah, I know it's going to be five o'clock on the West Coast.
And, you know, when Tony's talking to Wilbon about this on PTI, it's like he's speaking a foreign language because two things.
One, Wilbon stays up really, really late anyway.
And number two, he spends most of his time in Phoenix, which is mountain time.
So the game isn't tipping off for him at 10 o'clock.
It's tipping off at eight o'clock, which I guess really doesn't matter to him because he always stays up till 2 a.m. anyway.
But for those of us who go to bed at a reasonable hour and some might even consider it unreasonable if it's, you know, before 10 o'clock,
it would be nice.
Just be nice if they would start these games a little bit earlier.
All right, so, you know, Davis is the story last night. Just give you some of the other numbers from the game.
LeBron had a very, you know, mortal type of night.
He had 22 points. He was nine of 24 from the field, including one of eight from three and Steph 10 of 24.
You know, he had 38 shots in the game that clinched it against Sacramento on Sunday.
I got up 24 last night, six of 13 from three for 27. Clay Thompson, nine of 25.
So what do you got? You got two guys shooting 19 for 49, the splash brothers.
He wound up with 25 points and Jordan Poole off the bench, gave him the big lift.
He was seven of 15 from the field six for 11 from three.
So they had three guys who hit six three pointers in this game, which is a playoff record.
And just wasn't enough. It just was not enough to answer Anthony Davis who had his way at both ends of the floor.
And look at this too.
They limited his minutes towards the end of the season because of all the injuries that he had.
He had 44 minutes on the floor last night.
Let's see what effect that will have in game two coming up tomorrow night.
But the Lakers do steal home court.
They steal the opening game of the series and they make a statement with Anthony Davis that he is going to be tough.
The deal with this was Kendrick Perkins last night talking about it with Scott Van Pelt on ESPN.
Well, you know, Scott, all I've been hearing for the last few days is the matchup between Steph and LeBron James.
And you know, respectfully and rightfully so.
But they forgot to mention the generational talent and that's Anthony March on Davis.
Look, the Lakers have been the most physical imposing team in the paint since the all-star break.
Why would it stop now?
And when I look at what Anthony Davis did today, he showed us why he has been the best player in the Western Conference since the all-star break.
He was a complete man in the paint all night long on both ends of the floor.
And I said this before this game started.
Earlier the day on all the TV shows throughout our network, I said, listen, Anthony Davis is not sub owners.
He is going to be a officer threat and he's going to cause Draymond and Loni serious problems.
And Steve Kerr is going to have to find a way to slow him down after game one.
So the question is, how do you slow him down?
Over to the TNT crew, Ernie Johnson, Charles Barkley on slowing down Anthony Davis.
If you're Steve Kerr and you're the Golden State coaching staff and you're watching the film,
what's the first thing you're going to do to try to limit the Anthony Davis damage?
Just nothing they can do about it.
Loni is too slow afoot.
Draymond is too little.
I said before the game, I said it half time.
It's going to come down, can Golden State make enough threes to offset it.
Listen, Loni is a good player.
But he got no foot speed trying to guard AD and Draymond is too little.
He's going to get, if he's motivated,
he going to get this every game if he's motivated because like he ain't going to shrink.
Loni's not going to get faster in two days.
Draymond's not going to grow.
So it's going to come down to, can they make enough threes?
Now the girl did, the woman did ask a very interesting question.
What can they do?
They're going to get in the shot they want.
Yeah, they really did.
And Loni did give them rebounding like he did in game seven against Sacramento.
16 defensive rebounds seven on the offensive glass for 23.
But to the point that Barkley makes, Draymond had only four rebounds in the game.
So there's not enough help on the glass with him.
And nobody else on the team had any more than six rebounds.
So Steph had six rebounds in the game.
And that's going to be a big difference.
You know, Anthony Davis gets 23 LeBron gets 11 for the Lakers.
They get six for Vanderbilt.
They had big people as to Shaq's point to Barkley's point that really made the difference.
And the question is, you know, what do you do?
So more input from the crew on TNT.
This is Kenny Smith weighing in with Barkley and Shaq and Ernie Johnson.
The answer in less than 30 seconds is they can go to a zone and you can zone up, which
allows the person who's gone in the inbounding, the guy who's passing the entry pass to sit
in Anthony Davis lap at times.
And if you have guys that you think that might not maybe it's like Vanderbilt who can't consistently
make like six, seven, threes in a row, you could sit in his lap, make him the passer,
and then you could have some a little bit success in less than 30 seconds.
We all know Golden City is an offensive team.
They're in the locker room saying right now, especially Jordan Poole.
I got to shoot better.
I got to hit more threes.
You know, they let one get away tonight.
Anthony Davis played great.
He played 40 minutes to buy and play 43.
But can he duplicate it?
Are they satisfied with this win?
Are they going to have the killer instinct and say, you know, we want to get to know Golden
State, they're never out of it the way they shoot.
You know, one was on one was off.
All it takes is one or two games with Splash Brothers to be back and one of others, Jordan
Poole, Andrew Wiggins to play good.
So they're not definitely not worried.
They have enough experience to bounce back, but they're in locker room just thinking about
ways to outscore because Chuck is right.
You're not going to stop AD if he continues to play like this.
Yeah, but that's the key though, Shaq.
Like he's been alternating good games, bad games.
Exactly because the odd number games in the Memphis series, he was lights out, but not
in the even number game.
So maybe you hope that that happens here.
But I think the difference is he got such an advantage on Looney and Dreymine.
He just going to have to play good.
You don't think he had that same advantage in that?
No, no, no, no.
He wasn't faster than anybody.
Okay.
Like Looney is a good player now, but he has zero foot speed.
Yeah, and then he had Jared Jackson.
Yes.
And then Dreymine is just too little.
So he going to have an advantage.
It just depends on if he motivated or not.
You know, that's so baffling to me.
Is he motivated or not?
This is how your career is defined.
What you do in the playoffs, clearly he's among those who kind of blows off the regular
season.
I'm not doubting he wasn't hurt, but you know, you don't really hear much about him during
the regular season.
Okay.
Well, the Lakers are going to get in the playoffs.
They got LeBron.
They're going to get there and they did barely, but they got in won the play in and now are
considered to be top contenders or among the top contenders of the teams left, the four
teams left in the West.
But I mean, how can you not be motivated for playoff games?
I read about the way Magic Johnson would approach it.
Larry Bird, they would just like go into the cone of silence for weeks and weeks as they
went through.
And you know, I think Barkley is spot on.
You know, is he going to be motivated?
Well, how can he not be motivated?
But just again, that's baffling as for the other series.
Well, I mean, no surprise last night when you hear an hour before the game that Jimmy
Butler's not going to play because of an ankle injury and you're going to get Julius
Randall back for the Knicks.
Even so, it was still a six point game.
The next one 111105.
The garden atmosphere is great.
They had a lot of stars there and Aaron Rodgers showed up.
Of course, Spike is at every game.
They had various other celebrities there.
So that's always a cool atmosphere and the playoffs are really cool when they play Madison
Square Garden.
But you know, I mean, you get 25 points from Julius Randall who didn't play in game one
and Jimmy Butler, who is the heart and soul of that team, not on the court.
So you know, obviously that's going to make a huge difference in this game.
And they got 30 points out of Barrett and 30 points out of Brunson.
So they had they had plenty of weapons.
And now we'll see what happens with Butler.
You know, it the way he stayed on the court after that ankle sprain on Sunday, you thought
he would find a way to get out there last night.
But apparently they decided to play it safe and he did not play.
So he will be back on the court, which became three.
Oh, good.
It's an afternoon game Saturday afternoon, New York playing at Miami at at 3 30.
The draft stuff here when it get to, you know, we've had all the analysis of the draft so
far and the giving out of grades, which I think is always a ridiculous exercise because,
you know, we're not going to know for three or four years what kind of a draft it was.
But Mel Kuiper is forced to do that as part of his work.
So he's have to give out draft grades.
But as he said yesterday here on KJM on on ESPN six 30 yesterday morning, this was a draft
where you really can't fail anybody.
This was not a great draft.
I talked to numerous teams.
I talked to Todd yesterday about it and I said during our podcast, first draft podcast
with field Yates and he said, no, he said, I don't think anybody botched the draft.
I don't think you can sit there and say anybody screwed up this or didn't do this or should
have done that.
It wasn't any one team you could identify as a team that had the worst draft.
So I didn't put anybody in that category.
People want to keep saying I said the 49ers.
I didn't say the 49ers said the worst draft.
It was in it was the last team listed.
They had a B minus grade four or five other teams had a B minus grade.
So there was no worst draft in the NFL this year.
What about the Detroit Detroit was puzzling, huh?
Yeah, from a standpoint of key of who they drafted and where they drafted.
But let's face it.
Jameer Gibbs is a heck of a all around talent who's a game breaker and Jack Campbell, if
you would have been drafted in the second round, we would have said, boy, it's a nice
player, right?
So it's not like it's a player we didn't like.
So in La Porte branch and Hooker were all nice picks where they went, particularly branch
at 45 Hooker at 68.
Even Antoine Green, the receiver from North Carolina at 219.
So they, if you say that was a reach, then they made up for it with some other value
picks.
So for me, the Lions got a solid B grade.
Gibbs is going to be moved around.
He's going to be on special teams in a return game.
Like I say, he's going to be a weapon.
It's hard to find big, tall, rangey line back.
So we're as productive as Jack Campbell was at inside linebacker.
That's why I also like Drew Sanders coming out of Arkansas.
So those were two rarities at the inside linebacker spot, Campbell and Sanders.
Yeah.
So nobody really gets a failing grade.
And the grades are ridiculous anyway, because three years down the road, the A's may look
like F's and the F's may look like A's.
We don't know.
As far as the commanders go, interesting analysis in the times today for Matthew Parris
on the players they drafted and who they might replace as they take a manual forbs
in the first round, who's a cornerback and Quan Martin, who's the safety at Illinois
in the second round.
And what does that mean for Kendall Fuller and Benjamin St.
Juice?
Well, Fuller could become a cap casualties going into the last year of his contract.
And it's $11.6 million.
His base salary isn't guaranteed.
So they could save eight and a half million if they decide to cut him.
But as Parris points out here, this is a must win year for Rivera.
And you had a productive corner last year, who's still in his prime at 28.
And he had a pick six in that Dallas game.
He's still a very productive player.
And do you cut him loose because of money?
You also have St. Juice, who's been injured.
A lot, he's missed 13 games over the last two years, including five of the last six last
season.
So you have some decisions to make there in the secondary.
And then on the offensive line, where they take Braden Daniels and Ricky Stromberg in
the succeeding picks, third and fourth round, then what does that mean for Andrew Norwell,
who started 16 games last year?
Well, you could save money, $2.3 million if you release him.
And then you have Stromberg, who's a center, played center at Arkansas, Chase Rulier, who
has played just two games last year because of a knee injury.
They could save $4.3 million and $8.3 million if they do it in a post-June first release,
according to over the caps.
There's money to be saved here.
The question is, do they do that?
And with all the uncertainty of the ownership, and I'm going to get to more on that, there
is a story though in the post today, which points out that they're handling this a little
bit differently than they handle some of the other ownership changes because of all the
pending litigation either that Snyder would sue the league or the league would sue Snyder
or vice versa or whatever.
And what about making account accommodations for that?
So what Mark Masky and Nikki Jibala are reporting, they say the NFL is engaged in discussions
with representatives of the commanders and it appears increasingly probable that the
next step in approving Dan Snyder's pending sale will be a conditional approval that is
atypical in such transactions.
And final ratification is contingent upon several issues, including those people who
spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the confidentiality of the sale.
They caution that the timing of a ratification process arriving in such stages as fluid and
depends largely on the progress of discussions with Snyder's representatives.
And also you have the pending litigation coming from Virginia, they settled those suits with
Maryland and DC regarding the refunds or lack of refunds of season ticket deposits and
things like that.
And also you have the Mary Jo White investigation, Snyder has yet to be interviewed, he's declined
to do that and they are saying in this story that she's going to make one more attempt
to talk to him before the league may just release the findings and they'll release the
findings they say even if Snyder sells the team.
So there's a lot of things in play here but the takeaway for me after reading it is it
appears that they could have tentative approval and it's possible that the owners could approve
the sale and that the Josh Harris group could have control of the team as late as early as
late this month which you know would be I think an advantage and then you could make
decisions about guys like Kendall Fuller and St. Juice and you know other players who could
be capped casualties if you have input of ownership on that that might be helpful as well.
So anyway all that's still in play.
Reggie Miller was on Dan Patrick the other day and was talking about the Steph Curry.
Steph Curry joining the conversation now.
He's sort of been in it but after you have 50 points in a closeout game at Sacramento
his name goes to the top of the list of people being discussed to enter the top 10.
So Reggie Miller who is a hell of a shooter himself talked to Dan Patrick about where
in fact Steph Curry ranks and we'll get to that next.
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The sports capital.
It's Wednesday.
I got a Tony show coming up at 11 o'clock.
Also Orioles preview at 1030 due to talk to Ben McDonald of Masson former Orioles pitcher
once the number one number one pick of the Major League Draft in 1989.
We'll talk about the Red Hot Birds who keep on winning 12 out of 14.
They keep coming from behind to do it.
They are 10 and 0 in opening games of series.
Well, the idea is you want to win every series.
If you win the first game, especially of a three game series, I'd say you got a pretty
good shot of winning the series and that's what they've been able to do.
They have the second best record in the American League and they try to keep it going tonight
against the Kansas City Royals.
So in basketball, I think more so than any other sport, we rank the players.
We do this constantly.
Oh, where is he now?
Is LeBron number two or is he number one and we do it seemingly on a game by game basis.
It doesn't really happen this way in the NFL.
It doesn't seem to happen this way in baseball, but it's very important, it seems, to rank
players in the NBA.
Who's in the top 10?
Who's in the top five?
We do this all the time and I guess it's good for marketing for the league.
They at the 50th anniversary named the 50 greatest players of all time, which got a
lot of attention and people really got into it.
So that's kind of what we do here, especially in the sports radio world.
We're always ranking and we're always, he's not as good as Shaq or he's not as good as
Wilther.
Oh, you got to include Bill Russell because he won 11 chance.
I mean, all that and it's fun.
You know, it's kind of what we do.
So office performance on Sunday where Steph Curry had 50 points most ever in a game seven.
We now have the discussion of where does Steph Curry rank all time?
And that was something that was kicked around the other day by Reggie Miller, who is great
player himself for I think 17 years with the Indiana Pacers and Dan Patrick on his show.
Devin Curry is superhuman.
If you look at his stat line, first of all, what's it more impressive which no one is
talking about?
The dude took 38 field goal attempts Theodore.
He was 20 for 38, 38 field goals attempts.
You don't understand how great of shape you have to be in to sustain that.
And you could double triple team them all you want in today's game where there's freedom
of movement and you can't hold clutch trip.
Elbow, you're going to have nights like this and in a game seven.
I don't care if it was on the road or at home against a team with very little to no experience
other than a head coach who has won championships with the team that he was going against.
You kind of figured it would be this type of outcome.
Steve Kerr mentioned Steph Curry in the same sentence with Michael Jordan.
Yep, I can see it.
Again, I don't want people fled my Twitter inbox, but you got to look at the historical
context and Michael did everything in the air.
Air Jordan, he revolutionized the game.
He changed the way we thought the bag is shorts, the black socks, the shoes, obviously
the Air Jordans.
And Evan Curry has taken shooting in the art form of it and moving without the ball to
a different level.
And every, because I have a nine year old and I go to all these games, the first thing
kids do, they know they can't dunk and fly like Michael Jordan.
But they all believe they can shoot like Steph and Curry.
And that's the first thing they do is start hoisting up threes to try and be like their
hero, Steph and Curry.
So you have heroes to most and Michael Jordan and you have a lot of heroes in Steph and
Curry.
I see the comparison.
But who's had a bigger impact on the sport?
Michael Jordan.
No, from playing.
Well, here's the thing.
I'll take that back.
I will say Steph and Curry for this reason.
He's playing in the age of social media.
There wasn't that when Michael Jordan played.
You had to actually watch the games.
There wasn't, you go back on your phone and replay.
You know, Steph and Curry's in the age, the digital age.
So we have access to Instagram, TikTok, Twitter and we see the highlights and the plays.
And, you know, ESPN 360, every talk show, a lot of that was just beginning with my
Michael Jordan.
And it wasn't around.
So I would say Steph and Curry has had the bigger global impact.
I think Michael Jordan's really now more so famous for the shoes.
The brand.
Yeah, the marketing.
The brand.
Yeah, the global.
The people forget how great he is and what.
But and it shouldn't have taken this game, but I'm going to use this game as just springboard
into when Steph is all said and done.
How does he get into the top 10 players of all time?
I think he may be in there.
I think his late, you know, everyone's saying this was a legacy game for Steph and Curry.
To me, I think his legacy game was in the finals last year versus Boston and that closed
out when on the road in Boston to me, that was his legacy game because he did it without
I mean, he won one without Katie, the first one, then he won two with Katie and everyone's
like, okay, well, they needed Katie to win those championships and he was never a finals
MVP.
And that was a finals MVP series close out game.
To me, that was his legacy.
To me, he was just it was time to put the kids to bed.
To me, that was that kind of statement.
All right, I'm done messing with my food.
These kids are annoying me.
Yes, they're entertaining.
They're there an upcoming team, but it's time to put the kids to bed.
And that was that type of game and Curry made it.
He just wanted to put a statement on putting the kids to bed.
All right, so you have Jordan LeBron.
Kareem Kareem Kobe Tim, Tim Duncan.
Oh, Tim Duncan would be absolutely in the top 10.
So you got Bill Russell, Bill Russell, you got Wilton there.
I want to think about Jack.
I may go with Jack over Will.
Okay.
Hey, I'm into, am I up to you now?
You know what?
I think you almost have to take Russell and Wilt out of this.
It's a different it's a different game.
Yeah, but I got a value championships player.
Okay.
All right, so Duncan is does Bird make the top 10?
Oh, man.
Oh, magic magic magic magic.
I got to put bird slash magic or magic slash bird that they may be one.
Yeah, maybe one.
Yeah, like I'm going to have to do that for what they meant to the game.
I'm going to do magic slash bird bird.
Thank you.
Okay.
Magic slash bird Michael, but I might give Michael two spots.
Like Mike's right to one and two.
You're right.
Okay.
So the shack.
Um, Tim Duncan, magic bird, MJ, Curry is darant in there.
Not on this list.
I think we're running out of spots.
Aren't we outside looking in?
He's on the outside looking in.
I think if he wins, what if he wins this year?
What if he wins this year?
And finals MVP.
Yeah, you might have to think about him because that would be three finals MVPs.
Yeah.
Okay.
He'd have to win one more to get into consideration for the two consideration.
Correct.
But you have Steph Curry in the top 10.
I have Curry in the top 10 because he also changed the way we perceived shooting.
Okay.
He's the greatest shooter the game has ever seen.
No question.
But did he make the game better?
I don't know.
I mean, I grew up with those Nick teams where all five players touch the ball almost every
time down the court and just hoisting up threes.
Not quite the game of basketball that I learned at the YMCA when I was eight years old.
But you know, this is this is the game today.
Um, attendance is good.
They're making money.
The television dollars are very good.
So nobody's going to argue with it.
And you know, we sell stars and part of this ranking of the players goes back to what David
Stern did smartly when Bird and Magic entered the league.
He said, that's what we're going to sell.
We're going to sell stars and it worked.
And then Michael Jordan comes along.
And so now you have the passing of the torch of those two great stars to Jordan.
You know, like Julie's Irving really passed the torch to Magic and Bird, you know, and
goes on.
And so this generation has, you know, Steph Curry and LeBron and well, Kobe kind of, you
know, he's went into that generation a little bit.
He sees maybe a little bit before them, maybe 10 years before.
But regardless, that's what the league is.
It's all about stars.
And that's why it's so important to talk about where these guys rank.
Yeah, again, I'm not the biggest fan of a game where it's all about three point shooting.
Look, I mean, last night, Golden State made 21 threes and they lost the game because Anthony
Davis dominated at both ends of the court with 30 points and 23 rebounds.
And what the analysis was from people like Charles Barkley is they got to shoot more
threes.
Well, okay, that's that may be the way that they win.
And that's the way that they won on Sunday with Steph going out of his mind from from
three point and also scoring inside as well.
But it's changing.
And the other interesting point I thought that Reggie Miller made was that the Jordan's
influence now is in the clothing line.
You know, it's been 20 years since, you know, 25 years since he won the championship, his
last championship with the Bulls, the last dance.
And that's generation.
You know, that they're people who are in their thirties who vaguely remember that.
If you're in your twenties, you have no recollection of that.
And you relate to Steph Curry, the player, which is another good point, you know, six
two is not even average size.
He's small for an NBA player, but he's that great because he can shoot the ball and that
changed the game.
One more thing from Reggie.
This was fun.
If you remember his days with the Indiana Pacers, the most famous game he had was when he beat
the Knicks.
I think he scored eight points in the last like 17 seconds of the game, just unbelievable
and used to have a running feud with with Spike Lee, who has courtside seats.
And that was all part of what the nineties were about.
It was the Patrick Ewing Knicks and the Indiana Pacers, neither one of them either won a,
never won a title, both of them got to the finals, but in the Eastern Conference playoffs,
they would have some legendary battles.
And Reggie going back and forth with Spike, was sitting in half court was, was a part
of the whole circus.
So as, as part of the conversation the other day, Dan asked Reggie, was there anybody else
that you would feud with courtside besides Spike?
No, Spike pretty much took up most of my time in that building.
And roughly so, because he's front and center.
He's the face of the Knicks.
I love him.
We're at a better place now in our relationship.
We're much more friendly or when we see one another.
He's a good dude, but in those moments and deep down in my belly, look, I'll always have
a disdain for the New York Knicks.
There was, that's just how I am, but I respect him.
I respect John Starks.
You know, why the dude fought and he would fall out and come back and be like, is that
all you got?
I respect dudes like that.
But did you want to fight Spike Lee?
No, I didn't fight any fan.
Well, he was in front now, the dudes on their team, Oakley and
we didn't want to fight Oakley.
I didn't want to fight him.
I would get my Davis boys to fight him.
Are you crazy?
I didn't fight in Charles Oakley.
I was like, why did Oakley scare everybody in the NBA?
Oh, that dude was real, man.
Like what do you mean?
One of the guys you hated to play against, but you wish he was on your 14.
But okay.
So he wasn't a great player, but everybody is like scared of him.
Set the best screens was a above average to pretty good rebounder.
Yeah.
See, there's no more enforcers in the NBA game.
There's no more.
There's no Buck Williams, my Davis boys.
You know, Charles Oakley, there's no longer that.
There's no more role for that because you got to be skilled at that position.
And he played it perfectly.
Bill Lambert played it perfectly.
You know, Rick Mahorn, those guys were perfect in their roles.
Okay, let's say you pass away first.
Does Spike Lee speak at your funeral?
Would you speak at him?
Yes, I would.
Yes, I would.
But I think you got to heckle him because he should heckle you.
If, if you should show up in full uniform, if you live longer than Spike and, you know,
he ought to heckle him.
If I would come to his funeral dressed in all orange and blue skies, I would be in.
I like Nick colors at his weight breaking news.
Yes.
All right.
Just like he better be in blue and gold.
Oh, yeah, that was the colors of the Indiana Pacers.
That's, I guess, a new sports radio question.
Would you go to his funeral?
Or would you speak at his funeral?
Yeah, I mean, Spike and Reggie are certainly tied in history.
And I guess they've become friends in a kind of the way that Dremon and LeBron have become
friends, right?
I mean, that story we had yesterday that was reported by Marcus Spears, BSPN, that Dremon
wanted to miss a game for Golden State so he could hang out with LeBron when he broke
Kareem's record.
I mean, you know, those were, yeah, well, of course it was Dremon's job to try to get
under LeBron's skin in those finals in 2016 and wound up LeBron got the upper hand because
Dremon got suspended for a game and the Cavaliers with LeBron won the championship.
But yeah, Spike and Reggie, they go back a long way and I guess they're friends now.
Coming up got some breaking news on the Jets and what Aaron Rodgers said about being in
New York.
We'll get to that as we continue.
It's the Andy Poland show ESPN six 30.
The sports capital as a matter of fact, we're going to talk to Suleiman Saguar who is fighting
in the Beltway battles.
We'll talk to him at 10 o'clock.
That's again coming up in Southeast on Saturday night at the entertainment and sports arena
down there.
That's where the mystics play and that's where the DC go go play and they have various
events down there and it's become a really good site for boxing.
So that's going to be coming up on Saturday night.
And we'll talk about that coming up at 10 o'clock.
I want to get back to Aaron Rodgers here in a second.
Rodgers kind of putting the band back together in New York.
It's not quite Gronk being able to join Tom Brady and Tampa, but this is what Rodgers wants.
This is what Rodgers gets.
Randall Cobb signed by the Jets.
He said a hell of a career 625 catches, 53 touchdowns, 12 years in a pro as a pro.
He's had two stints with the Packers.
He also played for the Cowboys for a little bit.
Yeah, not a big year for him last year.
34 catches 417 yards and only one touchdown, but Rodgers likes him.
So he's there.
They also signed Allen Lazar to a four year deal at the start of free agency.
So he's got his guys and the more comfortable Aaron Rodgers feels in New York, the better.
And that will segue from what we're going to talk about here in that.
The way the money has gone up for quarterbacks in the NFL in a short period of time, very,
very short period of time.
This was only five years ago today.
Michael Kevin back with your breaking news here on Sports Center, Chris Mornson reporting.
Matt Ryan has agreed to a five year extension with the Falcons that makes him the first
30 million dollar per year quarterback with a hundred million dollars guaranteed according
to league and team sources.
So he breaks the bank here.
I mean a hundred million dollars.
Tell me the money.
Yeah, no doubt NFL insider Jeff Darlington joining us.
All right.
So a couple of years ago, he's the MVP, nearly 5,000 yards in the air, 38 touchdown, seven
picks takes his team to the Super Bowl.
And then last year we saw a new offensive coordinator, the numbers they dropped dramatically if
you compare from 2016 and 2017.
Timing up this.
Why do the Falcons do this now?
First of all, the Falcons feel like they know exactly what they have in Matt Ryan.
So put this past year aside when comparing it to the other.
Now he's going into the final year of his contract.
He was due to make about 19 million in cash this coming year.
I just literally spoke to someone with the Falcons organization yesterday, 24 hours ago.
And they said that this was definitely the next thing after the draft that they were
focused on and that it was they already had the money figured out.
They already knew it was going to be this 150 million dollar deal over five years with
a hundred million guaranteed.
It was about the nuance of the language, the legalese of the situation.
So the Falcons in other words, felt very comfortable with this.
Matt Ryan felt very comfortable with this.
This was getting done.
So five years ago today, 30 million dollars guaranteed for a quarterback.
Oh my God.
But as Jeff Darlington is saying, they're all and they know what they got there.
I mean, this is, this is their guy.
Well, last year Matt Ryan played poorly and got benched for the Indianapolis Colts.
His career may be over with.
And in just four years, the money went from 30 million guaranteed to 50 million guaranteed.
Aaron Rodgers deal last year, three years, a hundred and fifty million dollars, a hundred
and one million guaranteed the average at 50.2 million dollars a year.
He has played one year.
He will play another year with the Jets and they only have until the opening game to pick
up the option on the third year.
So they won't really have any sample size of regular season before they have to make
a decision on Aaron Rodgers, but given all the hoo-ha about him coming to New York and
the Savior and yada, yada, yada.
I mean, there seems to be little doubt that they're going to pick up that option on the
third year.
And you know, the way he rolls, he's probably going to get his nose out of joint if they
don't.
So they don't want an unhappy Aaron Rodgers going into this upcoming season for the Jets.
So they're, I'm sure going to pick up the option and that would guarantee the money if
he decides to play.
Now he may play one year and decide that's enough and the Jets wouldn't have to pay
him for that third year, but he could also say, yeah, that was fun.
Let's do this again.
But right now it is all sunshine and lollipops in the Big Apple for Aaron Rodgers.
Oh yeah, he is loving New York, courtside last night to watch the Knicks beat the Miami
Heat along with various other celebrities.
And he's just, he's just digging it.
This is Rogers yesterday on the Pat McAfee show.
Yeah, it's been great.
I mean, everything is new.
It's like the first day of school every single day.
There's new people to meet and got to figure out your routine and, you know, where the
laundry loops go and, and, you know, mail and cleats and weight room shoes and all the
stuff.
Everything's new and exciting and fun.
I'm just pinching myself a lot of days.
I can't believe, you know, it's real sometimes.
So it's been, it's been a dream for sure just to be here.
Definitely feel energized to be in the building.
That takes nothing away from the 18 beautiful years I spent in Green Bay.
I mean, of course, like how can you ask for any, anything better than that and just such
a special place to play.
But you know, 18 years same spot.
You also be used to everything and everything is just kind of the same old, same old in
a lot of ways, which has this beauty for sure.
But with everything being new and embracing the change and just the things that maybe
aren't as comfortable as it used to be has been a lot of fun.
And I think everybody's excited to have me here and it's been fun to meet all the guys
and as guys start to trickle in and get to, you know, get to spend some time with CJ
Yuzama today who's an awesome guy and, and Michael and, and, yeah, my locker next to
Allen.
So that's some familiarity there.
But it's been, been fun to get to the little guys, start working with my cadence and just
kind of easing into it all has been, been a blast and all the other things that the
city has to offer.
You know, it's everything's new and different and exciting and I'm just enjoying it.
I really am.
Yeah, it's kind of like Anne Marie and that girl.
Yeah, let's have an odd quarter.
Yeah, let's have an odd quarter.
Yeah, let's have an odd quarter to that too.
Yeah, we call that a clip and save because a year from now we'll see, you know, he has
a game where he throws three interceptions and everybody's booing him at the stadium
and the writers are asking him questions.
He doesn't want to answer.
We'll see if he loves New York as much as he does at the moment, but the honeymoon is
underway for Aaron Rodgers in New York.
Speaking of New York, the, the Belmont stakes 50 years ago, we start the Triple Crown series
this weekend with the Kentucky Derby and then that'll be followed two weeks later by the
prequetis and three weeks after that is the Belmont and there will be a lot of talk this
year about secretary.
We've already spent some time on that this week and I'm sure as you watch the Kentucky
Derby coverage this week, you're going to hear a lot about secretary and as the series
goes on about the greatest racehorse of all time.
There's no debate about that and his winning the Belmont by 31 lengths is, is absolutely
legendary and it lives on to this day and Tim Layden, who's one of my favorite writers,
wrote for Sports Illustrated for a long time and now does work for NBC, wrote a really
nice piece on this about how the legend has stayed alive for so long and it's because
of the people who were involved in this, including Penny Chenry, who was the head of the stables
and at that time, I mean, it was 1973 and Helen Reddy had a hit song called I Am Woman
and the women's liberation movement was really starting to really take off.
Gloria Steinem was a well-known person in this country, Bella Abso, these were strong
women and here was somebody who was front and center in sports in what was the number one
sports story of that period and has lived on to this day to be a part of this.
He also talks to and he did a lot of good research in this story.
He talks to the jockey, Ron Turkut, who has maybe one of the most famous images in still
pictures of the 20th century in sports, really.
When you see him looking down, looking across the back stretch behind him of these horses,
31 lengths behind, it just shows the incredible dominance of that race and just what it's
a spectacular performance that was.
Sadly, five years and a month after the Belmont, Turkut suffered a spinal cord injury in a
spill at the very same Belmont park and has been a paraplegic since.
So that's now 45 years in a wheelchair and this is what Layden writes.
I asked Ronnie how often he thinks about Secretariat.
He pops up in my head sometimes, he says, but I don't stop myself to think because then
I really want to be going back to writing and there's just something that's impossible.
And Layden writes, the words come from nowhere, a left turn from reverie into reality.
They land like a hammer on a nail.
Ronnie nods and he's quiet for a few seconds and then says in another deafening pause,
I don't want to think about that too much.
And as Layden writes here, he should have been Michael Ruzione, famous once and then famous
forever.
Instead, a horse put him in a wheelchair, a horse just like Secretariat, only slower.
The horse was flag of light gulf, a workday four year old clamor, 10 jumps into a race,
July 13, 1978 at Belmont, another horse drifted into flag who clipped heels with a horse in
front and pitched forward throwing Turkut over his head.
Ronnie landed on his neck.
That was that.
He's been blessed and now he's been cursed at just 37.
Turkut filed a lawsuit against multiple parties that was dismissed.
Inherent risk was the bloodless judgment.
Then Ronnie moved on.
He was able to sell Secretariat's saddle to Colton or Jim Irsay last year for $2 million
so that provides a little bit of security for his four daughters.
But man, you know, you have the best of times on a horse in 1973 and then five years later
put you in a wheelchair for the rest of your life.
Really great writing, great reporting and really gives you a picture of what this sport
really is all about.
And it talks about some of the other people who are involved in this like the race caller
Chick Anderson who died not that long after at the age of 47.
A Bill Knack who was a great writer, wrote for Sports Illustrated for a long time.
If you watch the documentary on Secretariat, he's very much a part of that and he's very
eloquent in what he says about that race in the Belmont.
He wrote a book which was the basis for the movie which came out in 2010 which is Diane
Lane playing Penny Chenery and that's how most people know about the race unless you're
old enough to remember that.
But it's really a good piece and I urge you to read it.
One last thing on this, he talked to Laura Hillenbrand who wrote Sea Biscuit about a
horse that was not as well known because he ran in the 1940s when they didn't have television
like that and she wrote back in a text to him or an email to him about Secretariat and
she said Secretariat was blessed with the storytellers his greatness deserved.
In their words and images they have bequeathed the memory of him to us with reverence and
texture and immediacy.
Through them we just don't know of him.
We experience him in the shiver of goosebumps, the tearful exaltation, the grateful wonder
of beholding so impossible a creature though them he never fades and he never dies.
That's great writing from two great writers and if you want to read something really good
about Secretariat I urge you to read what Tim Layden wrote at NBC.
Want to thank Ben McDonald for coming on Orioles preview also talking to Suleiman Sagawa who
will be at the Beltway battle on Saturday night at the entertainment and sports arena
in southeast and thanks to Rex Minn turned for running the show.
Tony is coming up next and I'll see you tomorrow morning at 9am.