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Part of the game.
Siege, we've got a lot to get to in terms of hockey talk.
We've got to talk to these Panthers.
The Devil series as well.
We'll touch off on the crack in a bit too.
The Emmets and Oilers, of course,
in a playoff series of their own.
We did not get the questions on our last episode.
We will get to those today.
But first, a bet is a bet.
I don't like doing this.
This is the pretend hot dog I have
to eat on camera because I lost a bet.
Thanks a lot, New York Rangers.
I really appreciate you guys so much.
Did we decide to eat the whole thing or just a bite?
I don't know.
I really don't know.
You could just have a bite.
I'm worried if you eat the whole thing, the whole episode
will be you trying to digest that.
Oh my god.
This is just so much.
It's a little extra, just like Julian McKenzie.
I love it.
This is so much.
Why would people do this?
Why would people?
Wow.
Why do people combine these two?
It doesn't make sense.
You already have a hot dog.
You already have pretend on its own, which is heavy.
Just leave them separate.
It doesn't make sense.
I don't know.
Here in the center of the universe,
I have a feeling that they know what to do with the Skydome
with the Poutine Hot Dog.
Maybe you didn't make one up to their standards.
Standards?
This is a joke.
Like, why the hell would people do this?
You don't need to do it.
I feel about, I feel the same way about Poutine Hot Dogs,
the same way I feel about artificial intelligence.
We didn't stop, like, we focused so much on thinking
that we could, and we never stopped to think if we should.
That's exactly how I feel.
Like, you don't need to do this.
You can't stop you in progress,
whether it's AI or Poutine Hot Dogs.
Like, like, progress, people, some might not like any progress,
but the rest of humanity will push things forward.
And that will bring us to a moment
where you can get Poutine on a hot dog.
And that's where we have got in this great year of 2023
at Blue Jays Baseball.
And thankfully, because the New Jersey Devils came through,
you now have to share in the joy of human progress.
Hey, everybody.
This just in.
Chris Johnston thinks the biggest advancement
in human history is a Poutine Hot Dog.
I didn't say the biggest.
We might as well make it that,
because that's basically what you're saying.
I'm just saying, progress is progress.
Like, before we know it, maybe we'll get our food
in a pill or something.
I don't know.
Like, things are going to keep things
that are evolving and changing.
No way.
This is sort of front to God,
and I hate the fact that I had to do this
and desecrate this Poutine.
You know, I had to explain to the owner of this Poutine Place.
By the way, for those who don't know,
I got the Poutine and the hot dog from a place
called Poutine Rama,
which is a Montreal-style Poutine Place.
And the owner is from Montreal.
Nice guy.
He was very confused at the idea of a Poutine Hot Dog.
Very confused.
Well, I mean, before you know it,
it's going to be his best-selling item in two years.
In two years?
Why is it going to take so long?
Why is it going to take so long?
Well, because he's already resistant to the idea.
He's got to open his mind to the possibilities.
And when he sees how many people are snapping them up
at GooJays Games.
Chris, Chris, Chris, you're better with hockey takes
than food takes at this point.
I don't know.
I love the way this is evolved.
Like this evolved from you chirping it unnecessarily.
You're saying you would never try one,
and then you make a bet,
and here you are eating one you're living for.
Chris, just show everyone the chocolate bar
you're enjoying today.
I don't have a chocolate bar, man.
Just got a coffee here.
So you've just finished your coffee, Chris,
before we were able to get on air,
or are you just withholding that for people?
No, I don't have it.
It's done.
Wow.
Okay.
The one time we could have agreed on one food take,
and you decided to withhold that from everybody.
So I guess we're just going to beef on food.
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
I'm mad at you.
Okay.
Let's get to Panther's leaps.
Okay.
Let's talk about a topic that hopefully
won't be nearly as divisive.
Congratulations to the Leafs.
They're in the second round.
As are the Florida Panthers.
And that series looks very, very interesting.
Matthew Kuchuck is playing out of his mind.
The Panthers already have a one-nothing series lead.
What were your impressions of the opening
to that second round series?
Well, you know, I don't know how everyone viewed
Florida's win over Boston.
You know, I think some people that I live near here in Toronto
were thinking that was a better outcome for the Leafs.
I think, you know, my initial impressions are there.
The Panthers are not going to be a walkover for anybody.
And, you know, we have to get our minds around.
And this is a broad statement that I think applies
to series beyond this one and just playoffs in general.
We have to get our minds around the idea
that what happens over the whole season
doesn't really matter when it gets
to the Stanley Cup tournament.
And if you rewind the clock a few weeks now,
Florida won six games in a row
at the end of the regular season to get in the playoffs,
they've now won four games in a row
when you count the last three to finish off the Bruins
in round one in the opener in Toronto.
And they're one of the hottest teams in the league
without question.
And if you see the way they're playing,
if you see the fact that they've had Sam Bennett back,
you know, he was out injured at the end of the regular season,
you know, what a difference it's made for them.
And the fact that, you know, Sergey Babrowski,
who was for a time kind of pushed to the side by Alex Lyon,
you know, he started to look like a guy
who's won a couple of Eszetrophy's before.
And who knows how long that lasts?
You know, I'm not, that's not,
I'm not raising that as a prediction of future outcomes,
but I'm merely pointing out that, you know,
you got to get hot at the right time,
you need to be healthy at the right time
to play deep into the spring.
And the Panthers got it going on right now.
And so I think this is going to be a good series.
The opening game had some funny vibes.
Like it was, it was really good to start
in terms of the atmosphere.
You know, obviously Leaf fans excited to see
with their own eyes in Toronto for the first time in 19 years.
Zacharron Hockey, the game started well.
There's some big hits, some power plays, you know,
as it went on, maybe the night fizzled a little bit,
but you know, the Leafs understand,
I think that they're in a,
they're in a tough one here against the Panthers.
And Matthew Kuchuk is a player of going concern
right now in the NHL.
I mean, he's probably one of the most talked about guys,
if not the most talked about guy in this playoffs.
He leads the scoring charts as we are recording this.
He's, you know, throwing nine hits a game
as he didn't get one against the Leafs.
He's a media darling.
He hasn't found a camera or microphone that he doesn't like.
I mean, he's just a compelling character
on and off the ice.
And I think he enjoys the role of being,
I don't know if he's a villain,
like villain might be a little strong,
but he's kind of embracing the underdog villain kind of vibe.
And he's disrupting things and so are the Panthers.
Um, I believe, I forget who used anti-hero,
but I think anti-hero might be the best way
to describe Matthew Kuchuk.
Well, anything to get Taylor Swift in the show,
I'm all for.
So I'll go.
I knew referencing anti-hero.
I'll go with anti-hero. Sure.
But I mean, cause you're right, he's not a villain.
I don't think he's hated by any means.
You know, either really by opponents,
or those in some cases, of course,
he has got truly under the skin.
But even others fan bases, at least, you know, I don't,
I don't get that feeling.
I think he's kind of, you know, respected.
He's just a unique the way he plays is unique.
There's just not many players who initiate contact
to the degree he does, who welcome it,
who like to get into some of the crap around the net,
and then who have his hands and make the offensive plays
and have 100 point seasons
and break the game open the way he does.
So, you know, it's a unique skill set.
There's a lot there, and a lot's working too,
I think with Sam Bennett.
It's kind of an under disgust, maybe part of his success
is those two guys in particular really get on the forecheck
for the Panthers, and that creates a lot of chaos
in the offensive zone when they're on the ice.
And, you know, I kind of think the Panthers,
that they play a little bit to like their state, right?
Like what's the vibe of the state of Florida?
It's a little chaotic place, right?
The little Florida man meme, like they...
I don't know if a little chaotic is the right word.
Well, you could say very chaotic.
I feel like they represent the state very well
with how they play hockey,
and I'm saying that as a compliment, frankly,
like I'm not, that's not any hate.
Like you watch a game they're in, like it's not smooth.
It's 80s hockey in a lot of cases.
Like it's taken four goals to win most of the games
they're involved in.
I know they've had a couple of the playoffs
that were closer than that,
but they also have seven, five games
and lots of penalties, and even just the style of play
they have, it's a little reckless,
and I think it's because of the personnel they've got.
And so that's something that Boston ultimately
couldn't quite handle or couldn't quite solve.
I think the Bruins' defensemen got worn down
over that series and Florida found its way through.
And now that's the Rubik's Cube
that Sheldon Keef and Aleefs are kind of spinning around.
And I think that you're figuring out
that you try to go power against power
with the Kachuk line.
Are you gonna try to create maybe more defensive-minded line
to shut them down?
It's only one game in the series,
so I don't know how that's gonna shake out,
but I think that that's the debate that's happening behind me
here at the least practice rink in the coaches room
is just what's the best way to approach this?
Because it's a unique challenge.
It's very different than what they saw
from the Tampa Bay Lightning.
What do you think this season,
I understand there's games still left to play
for both of these teams,
but what do you think this season could do
for Matthew Kachuk and his placement atop
the best players in the world in hockey?
This is a guy who may very well end up
as a finalist for the heart trophy
or at least on a lot of people's ballots for that honor.
And a lot of people are seeing his star power
unfold the way that it has in that Boston series,
the way that it's already shown in the Toronto series.
I mean, just him talking about him being an anti-hero,
like in my head, I'm thinking he should be on more cameras.
This should be a guy at ESPN
and the NHL should be marketing more.
What do you think this season will do
in terms of how we view Matthew Kachuk going forward?
Well, he's never gonna get a better opportunity, frankly.
I mean, ESPN covers these games, right?
He's, if he plays on, if they go on an even deeper run
than this one, if he continues to perform
individually the way he has,
I mean, that's how you make your mark there.
You know, he was second on my heart trophy ballot this year.
So he basically won the B-flight behind Conor McDavid,
which is an accomplishment itself
because McDavid was so far and above everybody else this season.
You know, I think you'll continue to be in that kind of class
of conversation.
I don't know if enough of our fellow hockey writers
out there agreed with me, but I wouldn't be surprised
to see him being the top three, obviously,
since I classed him second.
And, you know, in the playoffs, he's made for the playoffs.
I mean, you see the video behind the scenes in Boston,
like, guys, remember this room,
we're gonna be back here for seven after they won game five.
He scores an overtime winner in that series.
Like just, he's got a sense of occasion.
He's a performer, you know?
That's what Paul Maurice called him.
It stood out to me.
He's a performer.
Like some players, all the guys that play in the NHL
have a lot of skill, a lot of talent,
and a lot of, you know, also ability
that they've developed with hard work.
But he's got a little bit of an X factor that is unique.
You know, he grew up, I think,
having a dad that played the way he did.
I mean, it's so interesting that you can draw a straight line
pretty much from Keith Kachuk,
to Matthew Kachuk, to Brady Kachuk,
in terms of a lot of the things each of them do well
are overlapping.
And that's not always the case, right?
I mean, Tiedomi was a fighter in the NHL.
Max Domi, not so much, right?
I mean, it's not, we see lots of father, son, parings,
and it's not sort of the same type of player,
but it's, you know, still someone,
the ability to play the game at the highest level.
This is, he's a unique individual.
So I think, and look, he's in a series here
with Austin Matthews.
I mean, there's the opportunity to at least have the discussion
about the best American player at the moment.
You know, Matthew Kachuk's probably a little bit ahead
in the moment.
Austin Matthews, I would say, is ahead on the overall scorecard,
you know, having one on heart trophy himself
and two rocket was shards and has a 60 goal season.
You know, but, you know, they're contemporaries.
They played at the US National Development Program together.
You know, even Mitch Marner and Matthew Kachuk
were teammates with the London Knights
and the Ontario Hockey League.
So, you know, these are his,
these are the guys he's measured against
and now he's playing against them.
And if he comes out on top, I mean, that's,
this is where reputations are formed.
And I would suggest you in the first two and a half weeks,
he's only bolstered his reputation.
I mean, I think he did with the season.
You know, he, you know, in no uncertain terms,
kind of forced his way out of Calgary
or made it clear he wasn't going to sign their long term.
He, you know, I don't know if it's a risk
to go to the reigning president's trophy winners,
but he's going to a new team.
He signs a big contract.
I mean, there's a lot of attention that comes with that.
And he just absolutely delivered
when you look at his performance.
Just was a five star performer this year.
And if he repeats on the playoffs, man, that's,
we forget, we forget the point totals over time
in the regular season.
I think I said this in the previous episode,
but we don't, we don't forget the guys that get it done
when it matters and it matters right now.
Man, we could have a whole other discussion
with regards to how the playoffs obviously
are a different animal than the regular season.
We could have it now.
We could have it another episode.
It doesn't matter to me, but we could,
we should have a discussion about how the regular season
really doesn't matter.
And the Boston Bruins, as a result of what Matthew
got struck in the Florida Panthers did,
it really just underscores that fact that, you know,
you can go through an entire regular season,
be the most dominant team, have everything click for you.
And then in a matter of two weeks, it's over.
And I wonder if there is another conversation
to come with that.
Like, is it just going to be a thing
where we just continue to just shrug our shoulders
and say, oh, that's just how it goes in the regular season?
Or will someone step up and say, hey, you know what?
Like, maybe we need some kind of in-season tournament
or some other way to make the president's trophy matter.
Again, that could be something we'll go in depth in on another show.
But we could go ahead with that too.
I mean, that's inevitable at some point.
I mean, the NBA is doing it.
All the leagues borrow, beg and steal from each other.
You know, wild cards start in baseball.
And anyway, I mean, all these things,
what works somewhere else will work, you know,
generally across the league.
So I think that some kind of in-season tournament,
whatever that looks like, will be in the NHL's future
down the road.
You know, the regular season's like a bit of an optical illusion
because it does matter, but it does matter until it doesn't.
That makes sense.
And certainly by the first day of the playoffs,
it doesn't matter.
I actually remember Austin Matthews.
He won his first rocker Richard Trophy in the 2021 COVID season.
That was the year the Leafs lost the Montreal
in the first round, blew a 3-1 lead.
And he came back, you know, his, the first interview
ahead sat down with him in September,
whatever that was after.
And he said, like, no one gives a shit
that I won the rocket now.
Like, like, when your season ends that way,
it doesn't matter how great it was.
And you finally did something you haven't done.
And so I get for all the great players.
Like, you go across time from, from Gretsey, Lemieux,
Vellivaux, to the current stars, McDavid.
Like, these guys have to win a hard at some point.
Like, I think they have to prove to themselves.
And one of the ways you do that is an individual honor,
you know, that you are the best among your peers
or among the best.
But then ultimately, I think they all realize
it's a little bit hollow and that the only trophy truly
that matters when it's all said and done
is trying to get your hands on a Stanley Cup.
And, you know, sometimes the way to do that,
I think is by not completely going all out
on the regular season.
Or maybe if you're nursing a minor injury,
it might be better to actually miss games
versus playing through them and still compiling points.
I mean, that could be a touchy subject.
And I think it's personal, depending on who's viewing it.
But, you know, quite truly, I can tell you,
Matthew's had a much less productive regular season
this year.
I would gather for him, it's worth it,
even just to have won the first round against Tampa
to have that experience.
You know, he was big in that round.
Now he gets a chance of playing round two.
And if the Leafs go on a run, I think he's going to prize
this season over all the ones before it
when he had much better individual numbers.
Also, especially the fact that he had, I mean,
in that first round series, I mean,
one big knock on Austin Matthews before this year,
where's the playoff success?
Where is he showing up in big games?
And I think that first round series against Tampa Bay
at least helps to change that narrative.
And if that continues, of course,
that will do more for that.
But yeah, I can see, I can understand where he's coming from
off the fact that he gets a rocker-bershard
in a year of that ultimately doesn't really matter.
But at least he could come away with like an individual
accolade. Like imagine the rest of the team
who doesn't get that same amount of praise,
who plays through that season and they don't get anything out of it.
And at the end of the career, like that stuff
helps get you in the whole fame.
Like I'm not sure if he's thinking about that.
He's still a pretty young guy.
It might not be really in his mind just yet.
But like that's a thing.
Like that's why I say it does matter to a degree.
But I guess maybe what we're talking about here
is the idea that it takes you to a next level
to do it in the playoffs or maybe to do it
if we get best on best again.
We're not going down the road.
I'm just saying if you do it in that setting,
like I'll take you all the way back to the 2010 Olympics
where John Inteves was a very young player in the league.
And he has a starring role for Team Canada
kind of out of nowhere at 20 or 21 years old.
Like that elevates you forever.
And obviously he had lots of other big moments
that kept him in the top conversation.
I think that that's part of what we need these huge moments
for because you're measuring who can get it done at time.
And obviously certain things planned out.
You need luck and fortune.
Like it's not just skill and ability,
but we always celebrate the athletes who find a way
to find a way, right?
Because there's lots of excuses always.
There's a bad bounce or there's an illness or an injury
or the other teams too good
or my teammates aren't good enough or whatever.
But it's amazing how often the top guys are the top guys.
And Kachaka has been a top guy.
The last two years in the regular season,
right up there in the scoring race and regular season.
And here he is leading the playoffs, leading the Panthers.
I mean, again, when you do it under these circumstances,
when you pull it through a team
like the way they did in beating Boston,
like this, he'll be viewed differently on telling you
just off that one playoff series victory
than he would have if the Panthers lost in six
and gave up a good fight,
but just didn't quite get the job done as everyone expected.
I mean, I think he's already added,
you know, kind of something to his reputation.
No matter what happens going forward here
in the Leaf series.
Absolutely.
Anything else you want to add?
I did kind of write down Paul Maurice
and some of his comments after Game 1
and just pointing out the fact that he feels almost every game
that's been played so far for his Panthers.
The opposition seems to get more penalties
called in favor of them as opposed to the Panthers.
And he told Sergey Babrowski, hey, get some rest.
I would love to know if you want to expound on that
if there's anything else that caught your,
that is top of mind for you.
I mean, what a series in covering the Leaf series
is to go from John Cooper as the opposition coach
to Paul Maurice.
I mean, these guys fill our notebooks
as the old saying would be like just really good
in front of the microphones,
very crafty at answering questions.
And I think that was a crafty bit of business
from Paul Maurice, a veteran, right?
A guy was coached with Toronto a long, long time ago,
15, 16 years ago, but also coaching Winnipeg
for a number of years, understands the media game.
You know, he's frustrated.
This is my take, not his.
You didn't tell me this.
This is just my take.
But the Panthers were the most penalized team
in the regular season.
So far, the most penalized team through the postseason.
And rather than come out and complain about that
in an outward way, he's trying to turn it on themselves,
but highlighting the issue.
And he's saying, we just made peace with the fact
we're going to be in the box more than the opponent.
Because it's happened eight straight games.
Well, that's partially true.
In eight straight games, they haven't had a game
where they had more power plays
than they did penalties to kill.
But they did have three games where the numbers were even there.
I think the point is, he's trying to deflect
and help his team any way he can.
And the way Florida plays, I think,
it makes sense that they've taken penalties.
Like they are a big team.
They like to press the four check.
They like to run around the offensive zone.
And of course, that's going to lead to some penalties,
bad hits or late hits or maybe accidental trips,
whatever it may be.
I just think in Maurice's case,
he's just trying to help his guys.
And as I say, between him and John Cooper,
there's probably two no more skilled
at work in the media game
trying to get things in their favor than those two.
Yeah.
And with that, we can get to a sports interaction
and we'll talk about some of the other storylines
to talk about when it comes to stand-up playoffs.
And we will get to your questions at the end of the show.
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For those who want to know
who is currently the projected favorite
to win the Stanley Cup.
This is as of when I pulled these numbers up
just before we started
and just on sports interaction.
The Emmons and Oilers right now are the favorite at plus 390.
The Toronto Maple Leafs at plus 527.
They started the series as the betting favorite.
But still those two teams,
we could be on a collision course for Stanley Cup final
with both of those teams.
Some people wanted Boston Emmons and Toronto Edmonton.
This country might not survive.
The whatever war could come from that.
Man, I mean, the listeners of the show
could have got better value
if they just listened to my Edmonton Oilers pick
at the start of the playoffs
because those odds go down
as the teams get knocked out, right?
As the field gets a little smaller.
And I still feel as confident
as when I made that predicted Edmonton
should get to the conference to the Cup final rather.
I mean, it's hard to predict what happens
when you mix the conferences together.
But right now I think that they,
you know, are the class of the West, you know,
and the problem of the playoffs
is there's some unpredictability built in.
But I think that as long as the goaltending holds up the way
it has so far, Stuart Skinner,
and helping them get through the first round against LA
largely, I know Jack Campbell came in the one game
and had a nice story there.
But, you know, I think the Oilers are well positioned.
But, you know, they got to be road warriors starting
the second round with a couple games at T-Mobile Arena in Vegas.
They've had a long break too,
which sometimes can be an X-Factor.
I think it's good big picture to get your players rested,
but it can, you know, be a little bit of an impediment
in the short term sometimes.
So, you know, we'll see how Edmonton does as favorites.
That's the other thing is
they probably haven't really been considered favorites
until maybe just the end of the regular season.
Everyone got wise to how hot they were in the second half
because they had a ridiculous finish to the year.
But no one played better than them down the stretch.
And certainly none of the teams of the eight remaining right now,
none of those teams played better from January 1st on
than Edmonton Oilers did.
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Before we get to some of the other playoff series,
I have a question about the schedule.
So you're not the only game.
There's a lot of questions about the schedule on Monday.
Yes.
So for those who were not necessarily in the know
about the scheduling here, there was a time we saw some
of the series.
We only saw dates and times for only the first two games.
And I think even some of those dates kind of got changed
around to.
But essentially, if you're following the Florida Toronto
series, you got game one already, game two is Thursday.
And then game three is Sunday.
And then game four is next Wednesday, which is weird.
And if you're following Vegas at Edmonton,
that is the one of the one Saturday game this weekend.
All the other three games will play on Sunday.
And even then, that's Edmonton Vegas series starts tonight,
which is Wednesday.
And then game two is Saturday.
And then they get back to their regular cadence.
Why are there all these weird gaps,
in particular for those two series?
Like, why is the schedule like this?
Well, there's a lot here.
And I think the easiest answer is to say that there's
many different people at the table
when the scheduling gets done.
Obviously, it's down to arena availabilities in the markets.
The US national broadcasters have a say,
sports net, the Canadian national broadcaster has a say,
the NHL has a say, and then there's
just a standard way of doing business.
So when you mix all those voices into there,
I think you can get some conflicting ideas about what's best.
And what I'll tell you about this is,
I've never seen what we saw happen this way,
just in terms of timing.
So the Leafs and Panthers play game one of their series
at 7 p.m. Eastern on Tuesday.
They didn't, at least as I've been told from a source,
they didn't get the official 100% schedule until about 4 p.m.
that day.
So they got the schedule for the entire series,
three hours of Fort Pock Chop on game one,
which might sound like, oh, what's a big deal?
Well, the big deal is the teams are booking,
they're making their plans for the whole series
about what their practices are, when they fly,
when their media abilities will be,
where they'll stay, they'll have to book hotels,
and all sorts of things.
So logistically behind the scenes, it's a mess.
And then on top of that, I think that there's
some confusion about how big a breakthrough is in this series.
And as best as I can tell, the league
was putting out a schedule to the key rights holders
for multiple days leading up to the end of the first round.
And they had, this is what would look like if New Jersey
gets through, if the Rangers go through, if the Leafs go through,
if Boston goes through Florida, you understand,
like a kind of shadow schedules.
And then all of a sudden at the last minute,
there was no game on Saturday this coming weekend.
And essentially, I think one thing that forced
the Leafs and Panthers not to be there,
it would be the natural rhythm for them to play there,
is the Miami Heat have a game that afternoon
in their NBA series, playoff series.
And I don't think the Panthers,
well, not sharing a building or anything like that,
want to go head to head with the Heat,
it's already a tough weekend, the F1 races in Miami this weekend.
So there's a lot competing for your sporting dollar
and attention in that marketplace.
And so they wanted to play Sunday instead.
And then all of a sudden there's no game on Saturday.
So the decisions made to move game two
from the Vegas Edmonton series to Saturday,
even though it had already been announced this game
two being on Friday.
And that carries complications.
People bought tickets or hotel rooms or flights or,
those teams I'm sure had an opinion about it.
And so I think there was a lot of haggling back and forth.
And ultimately, what we see here is trying to satisfy
the most best you can venue space,
what the broadcaster needs and wants are,
and then obviously what the teams want.
And so, look, it's not perfect, but here's the thing.
It's the same for both teams.
That's the beauty of the playoffs.
Both teams have the same travel.
Both teams have the same number of off days,
or start times or what have you.
I mean, it is a true measure where
one does not have a distinct advantage over the other.
And so, do you know what the net result is?
The Leafs are gonna go to Florida.
They're gonna stay near the beach
instead of near the arena.
And I think they're gonna have more time.
Like they're gonna have more downtime there.
I think they're gonna end up skating less
because for those who don't know,
it's, you know, it's a, depending on traffic,
it can be 30, 40, 50 minute drive to the rink in Florida
where the Panthers play from the beach area.
So I think the Leafs are just gonna
probably take a little bit more R and R time.
I don't know if you remember the videos
of the Lightning last year.
They were playing like football and volleyball
on the beach there instead of having morning skates.
I'm not sure if the Leafs will recreate that,
but you know, they have a great behind the scenes video team.
So if they do, I'm sure we'll see about it.
But I mean, look, you just go to adapt
to the conditions presented to you.
And I'm sure not everyone likes how they got there.
I think the bigger issue, Julian, sorry,
is that it took so long for the damn thing to get released.
Like you just would have liked that all.
Yes.
You would have liked that to have been sorted out,
but you know, I don't actually don't have to top my head
when the NBA schedule was finalized.
Maybe that somewhat dictated the timing
of this being pushed back late,
but it's not ideal to be making the schedule up
as you go as you're starting the next round.
Okay.
Three things that, you know, I have nothing
that shouldn't have much to do with what we're talking about,
but I want to get those out the way.
One, never apologize for providing information as clear
as you can make it, especially on these topics.
We appreciate it.
Two, have you seen the movie?
You've seen the original Top Gun movie?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So I imagine whoever works with the Maple Leaf social team,
if the players are going to do what they're going to do
on the beach, they'll probably use that as an example.
Third question, what's the name of that bar in Florida
that you told me to go to?
I didn't go to when I went that you liked.
The elbow room.
Why'd something I like it so?
Yes.
It's very popular on the hockey circuit.
Like it's, you know, for example,
I went to All Star Weekend in South Florida.
I was there three or four nights.
I didn't go once.
So I don't like it so much that I'm like making
crazy trips there.
It can be a bit busy and hectic and loud.
It's fun though, if you're up for a good time.
That's why I was trying to send you there.
And you'll always see.
OK, that's fair.
If you ever go there during the season,
you will see people who work for the team,
maybe the occasional player, probably not so much
in today's day and age, certainly other medium.
Like it's just, it's like a magnet for hockey people
when hockey's going on down in South Florida.
All right, cool.
I have to make that trip.
I made the mistake of booking by hotel close to the arena.
And I should have went to the ball,
but like I didn't book around there.
But anyway, I digress.
I heard that there was two kachucks in the elbow room
during the All Star Weekend.
So well, three, I guess, if you count Keith too.
I mean, so I mean, that's the kind of place it is.
Yeah, it's just a lot of a lot of tripping,
probably a lot of yapping.
Yeah, and now that we got double off days in this series,
maybe I'll get there because there's
more of an opportunity perhaps to relax a little bit.
I think you might need your bed more.
Yeah, I mean, we'll see.
I'll put it this way.
I'll report back honestly, whichever way it goes on the pod.
Please do.
For the 100%ers.
Let's, yes.
To the 100%ers, we see you, we salute you.
Edvids in Vegas, that series of all four in the second round
looks like the most fun on paper to me anyway.
I also love the fact that we're seeing
Conor McDavid versus Jack Eichl, the top two picks
at the 2015 NHL draft.
And I wish it was something that was just kind of more
of a thing.
But because they played an opposite conference
as they didn't really see each other that much,
I don't think that rivalry, if it is one,
got hyped up the way that it is.
But now we get to see them play against each other
in a playoff series.
I am all about that.
How do you see this series stacking up?
And what are your thoughts?
Well, poor Jack Eichl, because I don't
say this is any criticism of him,
like how could it be a thing?
Jack Eichl is a very good NHL player.
And I know he had a really tough issue with his neck there
that's obviously impacted his career.
But I mean, Conor McDavid versus anybody
can't really be a thing.
Because it's not a contest.
Like one man standing on Pluto and the other is stuck here
on Earth or something.
Like one guy is floating around in the universe
doing things we've never seen before.
And the other guy is just merely really good at doing,
so yeah, it's hard to really build them up one versus one.
But they definitely don't like it.
You can tell neither guy wants to talk about that.
Fortunately, I will say, once this series is done,
I think it might kill it once and for all as a topic.
Sort of like Taylor versus Tyler eventually just
was not a thing, which preempted it by four years
or what it would have you in the draft.
I think we're close to the end of this having run unless.
And this is nightmare fuel for out of these guys.
Maybe if Jack Heiko has a monster series
and they beat McDavid out and you can be like,
wow, he's not better than McDavid,
but he helped get his team over the hump and denied McDavid.
Maybe then you can maybe turn that into a rivalry.
But I digress.
I think that what's great about this series
is the team that comes out of it is probably
going to be favored to go to the Stanley Cup final
out of the West.
And look, it's sitting right there for everybody.
The Oilers were so close last year,
they don't even have to go through Colorado again.
They must feel how close they are.
They must look at this and go, there's no reason it's not us.
Why not us?
And I think Vegas has to be feeling the same way.
I mean, Vegas is an organization.
They've seen far more ups and downs,
but they missed a playoff last year,
made another coaching change.
But they've played into the third round.
They played in the Stanley Cup final.
The guys that have been around that team,
whether it's Mark Stone or Marcia So,
or the players Shay Theodore that have been there a long time,
like they've been knocked at the door for a while,
and now they're seeing their chance to knock it down.
And both teams have question marks, right?
Lauren Vos-Wah was once an Euler.
He played very well against Winnipeg and full marks to him.
But how does he hold up?
Can Stuart Skinner slash Jack Campbell hold up for Edmonton?
I think where this series could actually be maybe tilted one
where the other is, Vegas doesn't take very many penalties,
Julian.
And with the Euler's power play being as dangerous as it is,
maybe that's just it end up being a series
with a lot more 5 on 5 play.
I'm not saying that gives Vegas a decided edge.
I think that the teams are a little closer there though,
certainly.
It works at Edmonton's favor of somehow there's
a whole bunch of penalties being whistled
just because they have this historically amazing power play.
But I'm with you.
I'm excited about it.
I'm picking the Euler's, of course,
because I've been backing them to get to the Cup final.
But I don't think it's going to be easy.
I definitely miss red Vegas entering the first round.
And after watching the way they dispatched Winnipeg,
I'm not going to do it again a second time.
And so I think they're going to very much push the Euler's
to the limit in this series.
I believe they entered the second round tied with Dallas
with the fewest schools allowed of any of the remaining playoff
teams, which testament to them, I get that series edited in five.
But that's a Winnipeg team that supposedly
had all these great offensive weapons.
But of course, as Rick Bohn has pointed out,
they did not show enough pushback.
I really hope we get a lot of goals
between this series with Edmonton and Vegas,
just because of the firepower on both sides.
Is it looking more towards that as opposed
to some of the defensive aspects we pointed out
in the Los Angeles Edmonton series?
You know, I'm inclined to think it'll be lower scoring myself.
And I'll just take the L if I'm wrong on that.
But the one thing that opened my eyes to Edmonton
down the stretch is the way they started winning,
like three-one games.
And I know they had some higher score games against LA.
But I just think with the way that the Bruce Cassie's team
plays, I think that they don't give up a lot of high danger
stuff.
And I know what Edmonton's firepower is.
But these guys are trying to win, too.
Like Conor McDavid has no interest in winning the playoff
scoring title.
He has an interest in winning the Stanley Cup.
And so I think, especially if there's not a lot of power
plays, which is kind of what I'm leaning towards entering
the series, it's a lot of five-on-five play.
You might see tighter games.
I think there'll be far more goals, for example,
in the Florida Toronto series.
It just seems to me that that's where your 80 series is at.
I would have said, if we had a recorded before game,
one of Dallas, Seattle, that that was
going to be a tight scoring series.
And then lower the hole, the team that's allowed
the fewest goals of playoffs allows
five to Seattle on opening night.
So I mean, we take our narratives,
we take what we see as trends, and then sometimes they
get thrown out on any given occasion.
But I think Edmonton Vegas will be tightly played,
tightly contested.
And I think it's going to be nervy for the Oilers
and for Vegas, because so much is on the line here.
We cannot overstate how unique this playoff tournament is.
Seriously.
There's no one in this tournament that has won anything.
I mean, there's individual players, of course,
but no franchise.
And there's a lot of franchises that have had chances,
that have been up, that have been down,
that find themselves here in this moment with no Boston
to go through, no Tampa to go through, no Colorado.
A lot of the teams that have dominated this stretch of hockey,
not to mention Pittsburgh and Washington falling off.
San Jose has fallen off.
Like some of the real teams that dominated the last 15 years
of the game are truly, I mean, they're either
gone for the season or maybe gone for good.
And now some of the teams that have been waiting
for their moment have it.
And literally, you could tell me any of these 18
would win, and I believe it.
I actually would believe it.
Seriously, even Seattle, I know you're going to go, yeah,
but what about Seattle?
I was like, watching Seattle play, man.
They'll give you like Vegas opening year vibes.
Like they just have a lot of skill through their lines.
They don't have the super star, but they just are relentless.
And they obviously are feeling like they got that confidence.
Like forget, forget how they got here and when they got here.
Like they're ready now.
And so this is so unique.
And that's why the stakes for Edmonton and Vegas
are huge here because if whatever these teams lose is next year,
they're going to go back in and Colorado is probably back on top.
Like they're going to be having to climb the full Everest again.
And I'm not saying this Stanley Cup will be easy.
Don't get me wrong, but I just think that, man, it's almost
like who wants it more a little bit?
Like there's not so much.
I'm pumped.
Like I actually, this is so weird.
It's just weird to see the playoffs like this.
Like the only team still playing that won the Cup
since the salary cap is Carolina and 0.6.
Like it's wild.
This is crazy.
Like this is a chance to redefine these organizations, right?
And you know the players know it.
I mean, Edmonton's played like one game in the last 28 days
with the way this playoff schedule's gone.
So those guys, I know they've been chilling out.
They're chilling out in LA until they went to Vegas.
Like they had an extended trip in California.
But you don't think they're not watching all the teams going down
and going like, holy crap.
Look at it was right here in front of us.
Go get it.
Yeah, I think that's a really great way of putting it.
Also, I made a swell mistake.
Vegas was so Dallas and Carolina entered the second round
tied for the few schools allowed.
Vegas had like allowed like one more goal.
So thank you for that.
So do you know what that means?
That means six goals, six goals incoming from New Jersey
in the opener in Carolina.
Cheeses.
You're going to jinx them too.
Like that's how it goes.
Yeah, that's it.
Did you see?
She's gone the jigs, apparently.
Let's put the hot dog thing to his side.
Did you see the way the Devils played
game 70 against the Rangers?
Like they just were all over that man.
That was.
That was a show.
Like that was leave no doubt kind of stuff.
I don't know.
I agree.
Maybe they're ready, man.
Like maybe they are ready.
Like there's no doubting their season.
They've been great from October into early May now.
Like they have been a top team the whole year.
And they just knocked off a team that supposedly
has experience in all this and that.
I mean, Jack Hughes has experienced now.
He just won a playoff series.
Same with Nico Heesher and all down the line, right?
A curious me.
Like, you know, most hockey fans probably couldn't name him
when the series started.
And he just came in and closed the door entirely
on the Rangers.
So full value to the Devils.
But I could see them going on a run too.
I'm with you there.
The Rangers, man, they didn't adjust.
They had a 2.0 lead.
The Devils clearly adjusted.
They make changes.
And the Rangers didn't really do that.
And I wonder what that means for that team.
I wonder what that means for Gerard Galant, who
had to address questions about his future earlier today.
And was saying it's ridiculous that he had to do that.
But I think there may be, Jaymond, reason.
Who knows?
But like, yeah, the Devils played like the better team
when it came time for them to play like it.
And the speed, the skill that they have,
and even the experience that they have.
Like getting guys like Thomas Tatar coming up big.
And and and and a lot as well.
Just other.
Eric Holland knows a thing or two about the Carolina Hurricanes.
Like, at least like the third year in a row.
Or like the third time at the very least
he's playing against them in like a different team.
Like he knows what it's like.
It's wild how guys like Holla and Tatar,
like every year they're on a good team it feels like.
Like they keep getting a new team.
Like the teams don't keep them.
But they keep like making a difference.
Like it's just interesting how they're consistently
part of good teams.
But for whatever reasons, cap related or what have you,
they have to move around the league.
But you know, Holla was part of the Vegas
run to the Cup final, right?
You know, Tatar was with Montreal when they went to the Cup final.
And and and all down the line.
Tatar, I believe, was also in Vegas.
Actually, now that I think of it during their Cup final run.
Actually, don't I think about it too?
He was a scratch in the Cup final.
Yeah, but also he was a scratch,
eventually for the Canadians too.
This is a guy who has been on teams that have made these
like journey like runs.
But he didn't necessarily get to contribute in the way
that he would like to.
There's a unique story in there for Thomas Tatar in there as well.
If he continues to be a crucial part of this devil's team
and gets to continue playing games,
like this would be really fun for him.
Sure.
And to go back to the Rangers though,
and pivoting off the idea of the Devils,
I'm not sure if it was a lack of adjustment or just
that they couldn't play the way the devil,
like the devil's dictated the terms like speed is.
It's what do you do with speed in today's game?
Like you either have to take a penalty by like hauling someone
down or tripping them or getting their way interfering
with them, what have you, or you know,
find systematic ways to break it up and and you know,
get the puck going the other way transition.
You know, New Jersey, it was overwhelming to see how fast
it were.
I mean, even Florida in game one against the Leafs,
like when they had when they had the best runs of play
in that game one, like they were just on top of it
and they felt fast and even even Sheldon Keefe noted like,
he's like, this wasn't pace wise.
This was a step up from what they'd seen against the lightning.
Like, like it's, I think this,
it's just becoming even more of a fast game.
I think it's not a new observation that the best teams,
you know, the Penguins were pretty fast teams in 2016 and 17
when it was Stanley Cup.
It's just hard to stay fast because players get older
and it's hard to continue finding new, new young blood
to put in a lineup.
But, you know, we'll see what happens with Galant.
There's huge questions, like there's huge expectations
among the Rangers, right?
Jim Dolan owns this team and you know,
they've got more money than Elon Musk.
So I don't know, I don't know what they're going to do,
but they can definitely afford not to pay anyone to work
or to like from a purely financial standpoint,
they can operate in a way that however they see fit,
that they don't have to be governed by a budget.
And so I think that they, the real process here
is determining not contractual status or anything.
It's, you know, is he the best personal lead the team
or maybe all those Joel Quenville rumors
will pick up a little more steam.
Man, those Joel Quenville rumors, like,
I think we have to leave Joel Quenville
for another episode because that is a very interesting
discussion topic.
I think we have to leave that because that's,
that's going to take up another 10 minutes
and we've got other stuff we've got to get to.
Okay.
That is a very interesting name.
I think we have to leave that for next week.
Well, my understanding is he's not fully cleared by the NHL,
but I know he's done a lot of work on behalf of the NHL
to, you know, I don't know what you call that,
but like I think that he's, I think he's interested
in coming back, but we'll see if he's allowed to come back
and if someone wants to hire him.
Yeah, that is a whole other discussion in itself.
Any quick thoughts on, on, on Joe Povelsky's four goal night
against the Seattle Cracker?
Way to go, Joe, man.
Doing it for us all.
I love that.
You know what?
You're like three years up on Joe Povels.
I know, but I'm still in the same ballpark.
I still remember talking to him like 12 years ago
in an NHL dressing room, which, you know,
usually every 12 year period, the guys you talked to,
12 years ago are in management, 12 years later.
And I'm sure Joe will be somewhere eventually soon,
but yeah, good on him.
Like, he comes back from injury, has a night
that he'll never forget.
I'm sure he was going to want to forget it
and that the fact his team lost.
It's a better story, of course, if they find a way to win,
but he's a huge part of what the stars do.
And they've got a better chance at advancing
now he's back in our lineup.
He doesn't need to score four goals a night,
but that was a nice cherry-topper
in the first game against Seattle.
Absolutely.
But to your point about Seattle earlier,
just the way that they're balanced, the way that they look.
I mean, the biggest, the biggest thing for them
is the fact that they always had that balance
and on all their lines.
The goal 10, it just wasn't there.
But for whatever reason, it is now
in Philip Groobauer and Martin Jones.
But Philip Groobauer specifically,
he was still below 900 for the season.
And he's at least nine 10 now.
Like, he's completely, his play has changed
and has helped the Seattle Cracker.
Well, none of us know a damn thing about goal 10ing.
Let's call it.
Like, no, the eight teams left,
there's only, like, we could have questions
about seven of their goalies.
I don't think there's much question
that Jake Autinger's going to be a longtime star in a league.
Like, I'm willing to say that anyway for Dallas.
But every team, like, we could go series by series by series
and go like, what's going to happen with Sergey Babovsky?
Can he keep it up?
Is there the Samsonov?
Is he what he's showing?
And the good games for the Leafs or the bad games,
you know, right down the line.
Carolina, are they starting anti-Ranta or Fredrik Anderson?
Or is maybe Piotr Kojekov comes in?
Like, this is a consistent storyline.
You know, VTech Vantage check started the playoffs
for the Devils and they went to Schmeed in the first round.
And it does act like, look, Jeremy Swam and started Game 7
for the Bruins after Liena Sompart played the first six games.
Like, so many teams, even the really good teams,
have question marks and net.
And so Seattle is among them and you're right.
Grubauer had some big games,
especially in that Avalanche series, which got them through.
But I don't know if I'm sure that anyone's
definitively answered questions.
Like, if you tell me, Bobrovsky turns into a pumpkin,
I'd go, okay, yeah, that tracks.
Like, I saw some, I wish I remembered who.
Someone made a good comment.
It's like, they find that Bob, Sergey Babrovsky,
is always tipping a playoff series in someone's favor.
Either the opponent's favor or he's either stealing a series
or he's like coughing a series up.
And like, that's unfair to him, of course.
But like, there is that vibe.
Like, he definitely at his top end is unreal.
But we haven't seen enough of it in recent years,
certainly not to the value of his contract.
And he's been good in these playoff games.
But he also was backing up Alex Lyon
when the playoffs started two weeks ago.
So where are we going to be two weeks from now?
I mean, this is part of the chaos of what we're dealing with.
By the way, Philip Grubauer to end the regular season
ends with a safe percentage of 8.95,
which was actually an improvement on the year before,
where it was 8.89.
In the postseason, with a five and three record,
eight games through, he has a safe percentage of 9.21.
Right.
And that's why the Kraken are still playing.
Because if he was 8.95 in round one,
they would have done the exit interviews in Seattle already.
Do you have a prediction for each of these series?
I know you picked Edmonton to win over Vegas.
What about Toronto, Florida?
What about Seattle, Dallas?
What about New Jersey, Carolina?
I have devils in five,
Leafs in seven.
I have the Kraken in seven,
and the Oilers in six.
Devils in five is the most interesting one of all of them,
considering what Carolina has in terms of their defensive structure.
That's very interesting.
I wish we had an archivist on this podcast,
because I was talking up to Devils in September on the show,
for sure, before they played a game.
I've been a believer in them all year,
and I just haven't seen anything that makes me not believe in them,
honestly.
They've actually been better than I thought.
I'm not taking credit.
But I think a lot of us missed that last year for them
wasn't as bad as the point total,
because they literally didn't get a save.
They had abysmal goal-tending.
And so with even just average goal-tending,
they were going to be better, and they've been better than better.
And I think they're going to get stronger.
And I'm just worried about Carolina's questions in net.
I'm worried about Carolina's lack of scoring punch,
not necessarily hot topics here,
but I could see the Devils really taking it to them.
That's where I'm sitting.
I've got to make my picks.
I love the heat siege.
Let's get to some questions from the lovely people
who sent in questions for Ask CJ.
We normally do this on a Monday,
but because of limited time, we had to move it to Wednesday.
By the way, thank you to everyone for accommodating
the weird quirks in our schedules,
because we had an episode drop Sunday instead of Monday,
and now we're doing an episode on a Wednesday instead of a Thursday.
Just how life goes when you're covering the Stanley Cup Laps.
So thank you to everyone for accommodating for all that.
Yes, you're making my life easier, Julian,
and producer Nick and the listeners.
So thank you.
Absolutely.
Let's start with this question from GiantPy12.
How does the said and sale of the Ottawa Senators,
if the team sells for $1 billion,
affect the expansion fee,
and does that amount make other owners
look at potentially selling their teams to cash in?
Who? I think it will affect the expansion fee.
I mean, we already saw a quote from 500 million
for Vegas to 650 per Seattle.
I'm willing to bet whenever there is expansion again,
the number is going to be more than 650 million.
I mean, it's like selling real estate.
The real estate is getting more valuable over time.
So that will be the case.
I don't know that you're going to see,
I mean, you have to remember,
most people that own a professional sports franchise
in North America, at least at the top level,
are fabulously wealthy already.
Like they're not owning it necessarily just to make money.
That's it.
It's nice when you can do that.
But I mean, these are limited assets, right?
There's not just a bunch of franchises for sale.
And so generally, when someone buys a team,
as long as they have the cashflow to support it,
I think they want to own that team
and own it for a long time.
Because the longer they own it, it will be worth more at sale.
So I think the send sale is,
would be good news for the league at a billion dollars.
I think it's going to make more money down the road
for whoever sells.
But I don't think you're going to see six teams
at the market.
It's just because these people already have the money.
The hard thing to get is the franchise.
And there's a lot of people,
like it's not the world I keep,
the world you keep juling with.
There's a lot of people in North America
walking around with billions of dollars
in their bank account,
whether it's tech executives or just people crazy.
Like I can't even put my mind around that,
but there's more billionaires than there are teams to buy.
And so the prices are just going to keep going up.
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beyond the people you cover every day,
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Ryan Reynolds is a friend of the pod.
We've been a supporter.
We've said that we will do our first interview with an outside
guest when Ryan Reynolds comes on.
I'm not throwing a shade at Ryan, but he seems like an intense
character, man.
Watching him watch the rexom games, watching the documentary,
and so I think from a bot, like Ryan Reynolds might be a better
boss in terms of getting shit done, but I think Snoop would be
more fun boss and more relaxed than casual boss.
So I'm going to pick him.
And even then, like in the case of Snoop, like it's Nico Sparks,
who's really kind of the leading things on that particular
bid and Snoop is obviously like the celebrity figurehead.
And obviously he wants to do cool stuff too, like start his
own, his league as well.
And he wants this, like he, I think he recognizes the
gravitas of him being in a position of ownership if this were
to come his way at the same time.
Like, hell yeah, like I'm, I want to work for Snoop Dogg and I don't
care about how much work we get done.
Like we're, we're, we're in the green room.
Well, I need to get stuff done.
Like who's kidding who he's?
He's done wildly successful, but I'm very successful.
He just doesn't seem like the hard driving boss.
That's, and I actually think Ryan Reynolds might be a pain in
the ass to work for.
Just a feeling.
Also, if Snoop Dogg and his people were all like, yeah,
cause we want to end up on the, on the CJ show cause like I'm not
saying no to that interview.
Oh, I mean, do we give Ryan Reynolds writer first refusal?
No.
No.
No.
We saved the seat for you.
Do you want to use it in stat?
Or are we taking Snoop?
I mean, we could, we could tip the balance of the scales on the
send sale.
It's Snoop Dogg.
It's Snoop Dogg.
I know.
Ryan Reynolds, hell of an actor.
Love Deadpool.
It's Snoop Dogg.
What's your favorite Snoop Dogg song?
I don't know.
You don't have a favorite Snoop Dogg song?
I don't have a favorite anything like that.
Like I don't.
So you meet what?
You were your boys in Cobra or, you know, chill on Friday night
listening to Jin and Juice in the 90s?
Of course we were.
But what I mean is, sorry, it's, I mean, we're actually reacting to
the question favorite more than Snoop Dogg.
Like you could, I'm not, I'm not a make a list guy ever.
Like you could say, what are your five favorite hockey games?
And obviously I love hockey and I've been in lots of games.
Like I'm not one to rank things.
Like what are your five favorite types of hot dogs?
Like I just like, I like all hot dogs.
So like I'm just letting you know, like I'm not a, I'm not a,
I'm not a, someone who lists things.
It's just funny because something you do is it, no, I know, but
like it's funny you say that because what do we do every February
and March every year?
We list out the most, the, the, the, the best like trade acquisitions.
What do you mean you're not a list guy?
That's a professional responsibility.
That's not something personally I would.
This way when I'm not, when I'm not in this business setting or
a joint, I won't be doing that in my spare time.
Like that's like something good.
That's something I have to do by order of work I do, not, not
something I want to do.
I just don't see the world.
Like I'm not, I don't, I don't see the world in like black and white.
Honestly, I think that's what it is.
Like I don't see the world.
I see a lot more gray and everything.
Like I don't see this is better than that.
If that makes sense.
Yeah.
So it does, it does.
I know you want to just, you just want it to be like gin and juice or like smoke weed
every day or something like.
Like I don't have a, I don't have a favorite song.
Oh shoot.
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I don't know.
You could say central seduction or something.
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Last one from Corleos.
Will CJ be bringing a little bit of cobirk to
Stockholm this November with the Leafs visit?
And does he need any local guides to set him
straight with the best places to go?
I'm going to get there if I can.
I think that's the best way to put it.
Loved Stockholm.
I have so many Swedish friends and so many people in
Swedish hockey that I'm close with and with the Leafs
and Senators going over it might make some sense, but,
you know, they announced that in the middle of the playoffs.
So I haven't had honestly, other than just thinking,
hey, that'd be cool to be there.
I haven't, I've got no idea if I'm going to get there.
But I spent last summer, I visited Stockholm for a couple days.
There's a chance actually I'm back in Sweden this summer,
although I'm still working out my plans.
So if I can get there, I'd love to because, you know,
I love international hockey.
And it's cool.
The World Championships are starting soon too, which is something
that'll be on our radar.
We'll discuss a little bit on the show when they get going.
And yeah, so taxamipke for the interest in Sweden.
Skoll.
Skoll.
I like that.
I like that.
That's pretty nice.
And I think that's-
Chin-a-leg!
You're going to have to teach me some Swedish, my man.
I only know Skoll.
I've got about seven words and I've used about six of them so far.
So.
Geez.
Well, I learned something new today as have you.
Watching or listening to this episode of The Chris Johnston Show.
Thank you so much for tuning in to episode 160 of our great show.
We'll be back next week with some more episodes, more playoff talk.
We will touch off on the World Championship up in Latvia and Finland as well.
Among other things that will come up.
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