09.15.23 Clark Answers His Critics on Clark Stinks / The Credit Card Competition Act
It's my pleasure to welcome you here to the Clark Howard Show.
Our mission is to serve you and empower you to make better financial decisions in your
life.
One decision I made years ago was to add a segment of the show that is the highlight of
my week and what we do here.
It's our Clark Stink segment where you get to set me straight, disagree with me, be
hot under the collar at me, whatever, because that's how we learn.
We learn from constructive criticism from each other.
And I really appreciate that you take the time to do your posts.
And later, I've been getting a lot of questions about the Credit Card Competition Act.
Now, I've got to tell you what's going on behind the curtain with this that the word
on the street is this is going to eliminate credit card rewards, and I'm going to give
you my 2% on this later in this podcast.
But right now it's time for Clark Stinks.
I should have never encouraged you to speak.
You know what you think?
I'm pretty stupid.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe you're right.
Now.
Okay, you ready?
A fire.
You're just a little smelly like deli meat a day past its prime.
Recently you advised a listener to consider important factors when thinking about taking
out a home equity loan to pay off credit cards and do home improvements.
I appreciate that you pointed out that they need to make sure they're not the type person
who will run up those credit cards again, but you did miss one very important piece when
considering a home equity loan and that is the closing costs.
Home equity loans often have very large closing costs attached to them just to establish
the loan, usually with an appraisal and possibly other items.
I know there's at least one credit union who will not charge you anything to get the
loan established, my credit union, but this is something people need to take into account
when determining if the reduction in interest paid on their credit cards will be a big enough
amount to make getting the home equity loan worth it.
That's from Judy.
Judy, thank you.
I want to draw a word thing here.
Home equity loan is a fixed rate for typically five, ten, or fifteen years and home equity
loans should only be taken out at a credit union.
Period.
Banks use them as a way to gouge customers.
Credit unions generally offer very good terms on particularly five-year home equity loans.
Also credit unions offer superior home equity lines during between a line and a loan.
A loan again is fixed rate for the five, ten, or fifteen years.
The interest rate typically offered on five years favorable, ugly, ten, and fifteen with
the home equity line of credit, on the other hand, the interest rate can change every
single month.
The rates are very high right now.
When the Federal Reserve reverses course and starts lowering the rates that it controls,
the rate on home equity lines will decline from here.
I appreciate you pointing out the ultra high closing costs that a lot of non-bank lenders
and banks charge on home equity loans and potentially on lines as well.
Those fees can be really ugly.
Clark frequently shares the options available for car rental insurance.
The rental car agency, your auto insurance, secondary coverage from credit cards, etc.
But I've never heard him mention the premium protection available from American Express.
It is offered at an affordable flat fee to all AMX card holders and his primary coverage.
So you don't have to risk your auto insurer increasing your premium if you file a claim.
Thanks for all the help you and your team provide David and Florida heading to Yellowstone.
Oh, I tell Yogi Bear, I said hello while you're there.
I love Yellowstone.
We have talked about the American Express because we actually had a question posted on
the podcast about it.
It was how I remember, see, they're $20 for the whole rental or $25 depending on the
level of coverage you buy and it's a flat rate.
So instead of it, the car rental account are being charged a massive amount per day.
It's a flat rate for the length of your car rental.
You smell like a work rendering plant on a hot summer's day.
That doesn't smell good.
Okay.
You are advised listeners to only invest in targeted retirement accounts.
Well, I do that because I've listened to you since the 90s.
This is not the best advice.
More than 10 years ago, I was reading many financial newspapers and I came across a stock
that peaked my interest because it seemed they were investing in the future.
So I broke from my routine and invested a small amount in it, $400.
That $400 investment is now worth more than $40,000 and has outpaced by far my targeted
fund and growth.
Well, I agree most of your retirement money should go into a targeted fund.
A small amount should be set aside for hedges but only for educated investors.
The moral is, investors should be reading about what companies are doing to invest in
the future and you should make small bets on the companies you believe in to increase
your chance of increasing your wealth and retirement.
That said, I appreciate all you've done to help me save money, spend less and avoid getting
ripped off Ken.
Ken, thank you and congratulations to you being in NVIDIA from when it was worth like
nothing and it's the hottest story stock in the marketplace now.
The whole idea of the small bets, that is a philosophy that Charles Schwab forever ago
referred to as core and explore and core and explore is fine.
You do most of your investing and widely diversified funds and then at the edge of it, you do targeted
bets or targeted investing, which is what you did and it paid off for you big and if it
had gone, the 400 had gone to zero would have made no difference in your life.
But now that it's gone up so many thousand times over, I guess, whatever it is, here you
are.
I shouldn't do the math.
You're sitting on a nice pile of cash from that little bet that you placed and that
is the whole idea of explore, do the core, then explore.
When discussing leaving your money in a 401k versus moving it to a roll over IRA, you
never discussed the superior legal protections of a 401k.
And while you talked around commingling existing IRA in a previous 401k, it wasn't clear
that you need to set up a roll over IRA unless the law has changed, Dave.
Dave, that is a beautiful point, depending on the state in which you reside, an IRA may
have vastly inferior protections from a 401k, 401k assets are really solidly protected.
And if you're worried about a potential liability risk or anything like that, having money
in a 401k even after you leave a place of work is a superior choice in most states to having
money in an IRA.
Like usually a diagnosis is spot on, but your fax on physician loans stunk like a gangrenous
leg.
A leg with gangrene.
The statement that physician loans are all adjustable rate is false.
My wife and I, both physicians, have used two of these loans twice and have received
excellent fixed rates both times.
All the other benefits you listed are spot on.
I would just hate for a new physician to not take advantage of these loans because of
a false preconception of the product.
Ben.
Thank you.
And if the loans available that you have found available from a physician practice are
superior to other ways of people paying for often as an elected procedure, then I stand
corrected.
Clark, you don't, didn't stink, but you smelled a little off.
Never say never.
You said to never ever, never check a bag when flying.
Many military members have this offered to them for free in addition to having the AMX
Platinum, which covers incidental airline fees up to $200, which covers baggage fees,
on your selected airline for the year.
Nor do we have to pay annual fees on credit cards due to the SCRA.
Sorry, but I'm currently active duty and I can't seem to pass up something that is free,
at least on domestic flights, and I'm willing to risk it.
However, I will take you up on your advice and look into buying an air tag.
Thank you for everything you and your team do, Casey.
Casey, thank you for your service to our great country.
And it's wonderful what you and other members of the Armed Forces do to keep us safe
and free in the United States.
Another one about check baggage.
Sorry, Clark, but you stink worse than the high school locker room.
Your idea of never checking a bag is crazy, but to use an example of the United customer
that went to retrieve their own bag is poor supporting evidence.
Millions of bags are delivered without a hitch.
Your example would be like highlighting a lottery winner as a reason to spend money on
lottery tickets without commenting that most people do not win.
Sorry, Clark, be fair.
Most people do not lose their luggage.
Ricky, it is true that most people do not lose luggage, but the loss rates from airlines
has tripled since 2019.
And I assume it's because airlines are so short staffed right now.
Their operations are having more reliability issues,
far more delayed flights with misconnections,
and the number of canceled flights way up,
and anytime there's a hiccup in the system,
bags are more likely to go missing.
So I'm really happy when I take my one regulation-sized carry-on bag,
and it's with me from the beginning to the end of my trip.
I just feel more comfortable that way.
Okay, so I want to mention this one too that a lot of people wrote in about,
and it was an advertisement.
When you did the segment on sports gambling,
an ad played after that for a sports gambling site.
Yep, and so we have very little control over that case, right?
So yeah, there are a few different sources for ads on the podcast.
We have some direct-sold ads,
and then we have a supplier that puts in sort of automated ads,
but we can block categories.
So I contacted them when I started hearing from people,
because we don't hear what the ads are.
And I asked them about this.
I said, I thought we had blocked all gambling ads,
because there are categories you can block.
And they said that there are subcategories.
We had block casinos and things like that,
but sports betting sites were not blocked.
And so I think on Mac and maybe even picked up on keywords
that were in the podcast and played this ad.
So I've now blocked them.
Hopefully it won't happen again, but that's what happened.
The people think you're a sell-out,
but you didn't have any idea that that happened.
You know, the whole internet world and podcasting world,
the digital presentation of content world,
has all these curveballs that come at us.
And I apologize because that really is the height of hypocrisy.
I was just telling you all of the problems
with sports betting and gambling.
And then we play an ad for it.
Sorry.
Clark, you stink worse than toxic fumes from a credit card
being burned over an open flame.
On a recent show, you implied that high-end cars
and discount store parking lots
correlated to wealthy shoppers inside the store.
You have all people should know that many wealthy people
got that way because they maintained older vehicles
instead of borrowing money to drive around
and quickly depreciating assets.
Some of those drivers in the high-end cars
don't have a nickel to their name.
Love your show, Lucen, every morning during my run, Adam.
Adam, thank you.
Maybe I'm making an if then that's not proper,
but I make the assumption that somebody in a high-end
car at an Aldi is not somebody who is there
because they don't worry about their money.
And they likely are someone who is not a conspicuous
consumer of, in the fact, they've reached a point in their lives
that they're driving the nice car.
Maybe I'm doing the worst thing you can ever do
assuming, which you know how the rest of that phrase goes.
Okay, Clark, you don't stink, but you miss saving some people
some money on outdoor cushions.
Someone wrote in that they had bought some outdoor furniture
from Costco six years ago.
The cushion covers had failed.
Rather than suggesting that they buy new cushions,
you should have suggested that they bought cushion covers.
I did this myself for a set that I found on the curb.
The cushion still had life, but the covers were faded.
They are available in various sizes at Kristen,
my favorite site, Amazon.
It's also an affordable way to update cushions
that are still in good condition
if you're just tired of the color, Tanya.
Tanya, thank you for that suggestion.
And I appreciate it because I love it with what we do
on Clark Stinks is you widen my horizons,
you widen the ideas that I should have in this brain of mine.
You don't stink, but you need to get one term right.
You mentioned a digital TV antenna.
This is a misnomer as is HD antenna.
An antenna's design is frequency specific.
The mode of transmission is irrelevant.
Television signals reside in three places.
VHF low, just below the FM broadcast band.
VHF high above the weather and public service band and UHF.
The antenna's length varies by wavelength,
so as the frequency increases,
the antenna length decreases.
To get a really good view of antenna specs,
what's a YouTube channel named the antenna man, Alan?
Alan, thank you very much.
I'm sorry, I do use slopping language sometimes,
particularly with technology,
taking old phrases and new ones and crunching them together.
I especially appreciate the suggestion of the antenna man
because I am asked a lot from people
and I've talked about antennaweb.org and sites like that
where you can figure out what kind of antenna,
what quality of antenna, what features an antenna needs to have
based on your address to be able to pull in
the maximum number of free channels.
And the free channel thing people are a lot more interesting
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There's a Donnie Brook going on in Washington between the Visa Mastercard cartel,
the giant monster mega banks that control credit card issuance in the United States,
which are overwhelmingly the market share for credit cards is in the hands of city bank,
Chase, and American Express, although there are others that own Capital One.
Those are the big issuers of credit cards and then there are others that play in the credit card game.
And we in the United States have the highest fees that are charged to merchants in the world
far and away. I don't know if anybody who's close because Visa Mastercard
operate in the United States as a cartel, kind of like OPEC does with oil.
And so there's been attempt after attempt in Congress and the first one that seemed like it had
any traction that is bipartisan sponsored the credit card competition act of 2023.
And the banks and the credit card companies are going crazy over this because what it would do is
force the ability for any merchant if he or she wished, if any business wished to use alternative
processors for their payment system at their business. Right now we're in this cartel that forces
these massive costs onto the retailers, restaurants, any organization selling and making the
ability to pay with credit cards available. And so there's what's known as an astroturf campaign
going on now spreading all kinds of fear trying to reach wealthier individuals with this
astroturf campaign heavily on social media and websites because so easy now for businesses to
target specific demographic segments. And so they're targeting wealthier individuals saying
you better do something about this. You better let your congressman or senator know you don't want
them to outlaw rewards on credit cards. So what's going on behind the scenes is the banks are in
terror that competition will be allowed for processing payments at businesses. So they're trying
to raise a ruckus with individuals who love their credit card rewards and they're twisting the
story making it sound like credit card rewards are going to be outlawed. So what's really going on?
If competition is allowed for the processing of credit cards the fees that merchants have to pay
will collapse and go to world standards which is a tiny fraction of what they are right now.
And for many businesses now credit card processing fees are the second or third largest
expense at those businesses. And that's why more and more businesses are saying yeah you can use
your credit card but you're going to have to pay extra to use it. So it is true if we go to world
standard and through having competition all that surplus money that's coming out of restaurants
and retailers and various businesses pockets will ultimately have the marketplace effect
of destroying the reward market and you and I will no longer likely if the free market is allowed
to work you and I will no longer be able to get all our rewards like me with my 2% cashback card
and my mileage cards and all that stuff those will be devalued or go extinct. It's true. The law
that is proposed the bill that is proposed will not eliminate rewards but the marketplace being
allowed to operate as a free and open marketplace may well have the result of eliminating all those
benefits that high volume chargers who pay their bills and full get each and every month.
My bias is always let the free market work and so if I lose my rewards I'm okay with that because
it allowed the free market to function which it does not in the United States. We consider ourselves
to be a free market economy a capitalist economy but one of the problems in the United States now
is heavily influential political contributing businesses and lobbying organizations
destroy and certain segments that benefit them the free market functioning and I want the free
market to function which is why even though the astroturf campaign is lying the result they worry
about or say could come true the end of the rewards but if that's the free market working I'd
rather it be a free market. Okay James and South Dakota says our 15-year-old daughter has started
babysitting and her clients want to pay using a person-to-person pay app. In other words they want
to use Venmo cash app or sell. Paypal whatever. Cash app or PayPal etc. So I know you've warned us
about the dangers of using these services with people outside the family and friend zone what would
you suggest we do to protect her from getting ripped off yet making it convenient for her customers
seems most of her clients don't use checks or cash anymore. Yeah James she's fine tell her to go
ahead and set up the apps she's 15 you can help her go open and account at a credit union local
to you in South Dakota and she can link PayPal cash app Venmo to it and she can one of her
pitches is I make it very convenient for you to pay and I accept all these methods of payment
including cash. Accept Zell. Accept Zell yeah no Zell because big bad Zell nothing but a nightmare
and can you imagine 15 she works hard making all this money she has Zell linked to an
accounting credit union then all her money vanishes and the credit union just like the banks are
like hey that's life that's tough doesn't matter what happened you lost your money because Zell
is big bad Zell for a reason it is much more dangerous to use than Venmo cash app or PayPal at
least at this point. This one's from Beverly in South Carolina it's been a while since I bought a
new cell phone and to my dismay our favorite place Costco doesn't sell them anymore that I can find
so I went to my backup place which is Walmart and I didn't find much there either I use T-Mobile
and I'm not interested in changing carriers right now where do I buy a phone do I have to go back
to the T-Mobile store I want to just buy one outright instead of using a payment plan on my T-Mobile
bill. So first let me explain what happened at Costco Costco had a sweetheart deal for Costco for
years they had an outside vendor that set up the cell phone deal there and Costco members
normally got vastly superior deals buying phones and signing up for service inside the Costco
versus going to an AT&T Verizon or T-Mobile store or wherever unfortunately the deal that Costco
had negotiated was too good and the vendor went bust and so those booths disappeared and what's
in their place now is Costco at least for now is temporarily renting space to the big cell phone
carriers and the deal stink you go in there and basically you're in a crummy cell phone store for
one of the three major brands so don't be conned unless Costco fixes this buying anything from those
kiosk that are in the Costco stores now because they're nothing so buying a cell phone now how do you
do it generally the thing I'm finding best for people who don't want to be in a payment contract with
any cell phone carrier is you go direct to the selling site of the manufacturer
or often Amazon to buy a cell phone when you're looking for a new or reconditioned phone
often if you go to the manufacturer they're offering deals for you to buy a phone with a offer
crazy generous trade-ins so generous that I'll go and I'll buy a used phone on eBay it's in good
condition and trade it in and often I'll save $500-800 on the phone by doing that the one
exception with Costco is Costco.com often sells iPhones cheaper than you can buy somewhere else
and they do these regular promotions where they offer deals on iPhones significantly better
than you can buy direct from Apple and often better than what you can buy from one of the big cell
phone carriers themselves. All right I'm going to read both of these questions because they're about
a similar thing. John in South Carolina says since you have a Sam's master card do you use Sam's
gas it is not on the top tier gas list I'm just curious. Richard and Connecticut says Clark
talks about buying gas at a top tier gas station. I've seen a no named tanker leave a no named station
and go to a shell station is Costco gas and is Costco gas top tier. Costco gas is top tier
Sam's is not at this point and the way tanker trucks work I went when I was doing a TV story years
ago I went to a tanker farm because of this very question people were asking why is this showing
up at an exon or shell or whatever so in those trucks if they're delivering to if they're you know
third party fuel fuel tanker farm trucks the additives that are required for that particular gas or
added before that gas is delivered to that station at least that's how it used to work a station
that is top tier will usually have signage there saying that it's top tier gas what is top tier gas
it is a standard that assures you as a buyer that you are getting gas that meets a long list of
high standards if you go somewhere else they're only meeting state standards which are inferior to top
tier I drive an electric car so the times that I fill up or when I'm in a rental car and yes
I have filled up a rental car at Sam's club gas because it's cheaper I filled up rental cars
at Costco because it's cheaper so that's my measurement of gas when it's not my own car if I
were filling up my own car would I only go to places that are top tier the answers yes for me
and I know we've had a lot of people write in on both sides of this thing with top tier and so I
I tell you that's what I do because I believe that the top tier standards improve the the
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