Tons of Scrimmage Intel + Harbaugh VS NCAA | Late Kick Live Ep. 415

Auf der Suche nach dem perfekten Match. Eigentlich brauche ich nur ein Shop-System um meine Produkte online zu verkaufen. Mit Shopify kannst du einen Online-Shop erstellen und gestalten und hast die volle Kontrolle über dein Geschäft. Ja, den perfekten Match gibt es. Test der Shopify-Kostenlos auf Shopify.de-LashRadio. Bereits 10.000 Deutsche Unternehmern haben sich dafür entschieden. Gemacht für Deutschland. Powered by Shopify. Oh, sie tellen mich. Colin & Jesse, sie tellen mich. Es ist eine große Pull-Reveal-Tomorrow-Ammunity. Sie tellen mich die AP-Polls-Dropping. Sie machte dir die AP-Polls-Dropping. Ich weiß nicht, wenn ich weiß, ich weiß nicht. Ich weiß nicht, ob das eine All-American-Team ist. Wir haben das am Anfang des Podcasts aufgelistet. Ich weiß nicht, wo Jan Pact, High-A-Top-A-Water-Log-Downtown-National-Tennessei, ist Sunday. Und jetzt ist es August 13. Die Aufmerksamkeit im Jahr 2023. Es ist ein Einflug. Ich habe es in den letzten zwei Wochen in den Football-Games. Die ganze Welt wird in drei Wochen in den letzten Wochen. Ich habe einen Lodet, einen Wall-To-Wall-Skrimmagen-Tel. Sie schrämmagen in Athens, in Tuscallusin, in Lincoln und in Clemsen. Wir sind inzwischen. Und wir zeigen dir, was wir hierher haben. Die Ehrer ist zu dem Ground all day. Ich will dir wissen, was wir hierher haben. Ein paar Korter-Back-Battles, nicht-Kontroversies-Battles, die sich nicht schapen wird. Die preview-Magic-Culture-Tool-Job wird bald schaubt. Jim Harbaw versus den NCAA. Probably one of the better rivalries of July and August. I'm going to talk about what I think's going on there. We're going to predict Tennessee's record tonight. How good could it be? How bad could it be? What will it actually be? We got what ifs? We got bold predictions. Like I said, we got our All-American teams coming out tonight. At least the offense is coming out tonight. They're watching us in beautiful, this time of your St. George Utah. Post-Skrimmage. Ich bin keeping an eye on that. There is immense potential with this team. There's a reason there's going to be a preseason number one, but I'm not going to tell you that any coach wants to have a bad scrimmage. That would be stupidity. I am telling you, the Kirby smart wanted to have a bad scrimmage. I am telling you, he's one of the coaches that stands to benefit the most from his team having a poor first scrimmage by their standards. Because whether you guard against complacency and whether you guard against entitlement or not, a little bit of it is inevitable. If you have the best structure, organizationally on the face of the earth, a little bit of that's inevitable. And it's really nice when you've won two of those, I would say, lackluster looking trophies compared to the crystal football, but nevertheless, when you've won two of those trophies in a row, there's a little bit of that can creep in. So you have to remind guys, you had nothing whatsoever to do with that. This team hasn't accomplished anything. You know the talking points. I'm really interested to see how that wide receiver position shakes out because it sounds like the running back position, they hope will get healthy. I'm not sure that's going to be an elite position for them this year. It'll be plenty good enough, but the wide receiver position, I think they've got a lot of potential in that room. Like I told you in the spring, I think George's wide receiver room has the raw potential to be the best they've had under Kirby smart. It doesn't really matter what potential you have if it's not realized. All right, let's head up the road a little ways to a place where there resides a team that George should probably play out of conference every year, but that's when I'm College Football Commissioner. In the meantime, Clemson had a scrimmage yesterday, listen to this quote, what a paper popper here. How about this quote, from Davos Swinney, no context Davos, I wouldn't be surprised if we try a field goal from 70 yards this year. Really? Well, there is a kid by the name of Robert Gunn. Is this right, Jesse? Robert Gunn? Yeah, he's the kicker up there. I mean, apparently if Lane Kiffen had him in Oakland, a few of those actually would have been good. So I don't know if they're actually going to attempt more from 70 this year, but he looked good. Sounds like the offensive line looks really good, deep with quality options. So those are the good things, and you know when I scrimm over good things, it's normally so I can get to the less than good things. I'd receiver seems to still be an issue for them. And we're going on several years now. It's just when I look at them in their vintage years, I look at that team that beat Alabama. I look at those teams that went wire to wire with BAMMA in 15 and 16 and then blew them out in 18, what a miserable trip that was to Santa Clara for almost all involved. I think to myself, wow, they had future Sunday guys everywhere on the perimeter. And now I look at them, and I think to myself, are there any future Sunday guys on the perimeter? And by the way, that's not a this year thing. That's been a last few years thing with very limited exceptions at Clemson. So I keep hoping to myself, maybe it's foolish of me to do it, but I keep hoping to myself either they'll just strike gold and recruiting or, you know, I want you to close your ears up there in South Carolina, or maybe they'll go in the portal for guys. It's not illegal, but they're not doing it. So they have what they have there, Bo Collins, Antonio Williams, Adam Randall. Those are probably your projected starters. And it really doesn't sound like anyone did anything special in the scrimmage yesterday. That's not the end of the world. Like I said, if this were the Ohio State receiver room, I would not care if Marvin Harrison Jr. had one catch for 28 yards. There is not a marvel in the Clemson wide receiver room. Few truths in an uncertain world, but one of them is there's not a Marvin Harrison Jr. pretty much anywhere else, but there's not one or one remotely like him at Clemson. Jake, man, the tight end. I want you to keep an eye on him. He's from Brentwood, Tennessee. That's why I want you to keep an eye on him. Jake Brenning's tool is the tight end there at 66230 that is going to be a very, very pivotal player for them this year. He was good in the scrimmage yesterday. And also if I'm halfway right about what I'm saying with the wide receiver position, he's going to have to be an integral part of the passing game. So yeah, we got Garrett Riley over there at OC. And yeah, we hope K Club that can be that the version of himself that we saw come out of high school. But you got to have guys on the other end of that transaction to catch the football. At Auburn, big head scratcher on Saturday, big head scratcher. I'm just nervously playing with this piece of paper in front of me. Not because I'm nervous. I couldn't care less. I am doing my impression of Hugh Freeze. Hugh cannot will a depth chart into looking the way you wanted to. Okay, everyone can pencil in their depth chart. Everyone can draw it up like you think it's going to play out. Here's the problem. Eventually they roll the ball out there and you got to strap it up and you got to actually make it pan out that way. And at Auburn, the quarterback battle is not working out the way that I think the head coach there wants it to work out. And if I can be selfish for a second and I rarely am, as we all know, if I can be selfish for a second, it's not working out the way I needed it. So I came on here, what, like seven days ago and I told you, Robbie Ashford's probably not going to be the starting quarterback for this team. And I'm not sure why I just said it probably because I absolutely said he's not going to be the starting quarterback for this team. Yeah, well, here's the problem. Robbie Ashford didn't listen to me. And Peyton Thorn, when I said I thought he was going to be the starter there, I don't think he listened to me either or if they did, they really didn't take it to heart much. We come out of yesterday's scrimmage. Well, let me rephrase. We go into yesterday's scrimmage at Auburn and it looks like for all the world that Peyton Thorn is the guy who's going to be the preseason number one and he'll probably hold on to QB1 the entire year. I think that's what Hugh Frees thought. I think he's been as open as he can about that. Well, then they have the game yesterday and the problem is Peyton Thorn, the transfer from Michigan State is the third best quarterback on that team right now. Holden Gernier, better than Peyton Thorn yesterday. Robbie Ashford, better than Peyton Thorn yesterday. Now, I think you may listen to me if you've been pretty dialed in and you may say, well, what's the big freak out for? I mean, didn't he transfer in after spring? Is it the wildest concept in the world that a guy that has not even taken spring reps, much less real life Saturday reps with this team is a little bit slow to just be molded into the Auburn story quarterback? Yeah, that's in a normal world though. We don't live in a normal world. We live in the portal world. You're just supposed to be able to go like that and everything works. Everything's not working like that down there. I, let me say this, I'm not going to talk about the regular season yet because they do have another scrimmage coming up. That next scrimmage, if Cole Kubrick ever wanted to be of use to this show, he needs to burn one of those texts to me tonight or next week on the Sunday show, let me know what's really going on down there with the quarterback position. I know he knows people at Auburn. I'm told he did something there once upon a time. Miami, AJ Allen had himself a day. That is a transfer running back from Nebraska. Now you may remember we were down there, yes, of course you remember. If you watched the show, you remember we did a show from there about two months ago. And the day before the show, I went in the facility and I did a really long sit down with the offensive coordinator there, Shannon Dawson. We cut that down to about 30 minutes. So I had Bradley the associate go and scan through the whole thing today. And I said, Bradley, find me the part where Shannon Dawson talked about the run game. Bradley, he really enthusiastic and he walks out of the office and then he's dragging his feet back in. He's like, you're funded. And I said, what were you talking about? And I didn't realize the conversation we had with him about the run game, it did not make the final cut. Well, allow me to share what he said that didn't make the final cut. I asked him, what's the one thing that will change the most about your offense this year? Then we ran it last year. I think that offensive coordinator down there knew about guys like AJ Allen. That's what I think. I think they trust their offensive line a whole heck of a lot more than they did this time last year too. Run defense is going to be the biggest potential that kill his heel for Miami this year. Because they got great pass rush potential. But as Mimal used to tell me all the time, Joshua, you have to earn the right to rush the passer. If you can't stop the run on early downs, you don't get to pin your ears back on third down. Mimal would have been an all world defensive coordinator. She chose another route. She chose nursing. So she never put on the headset, luckily for you offence is out there. I can see a world where they're good enough, they're good enough in run D and then they they have havoc providers on third down or I can see a world where they're giving up ridiculous yards per carry numbers defensively and you can't realize the full potential of that pass rush. Either way, it is good that we have some guys breaking out offensively, also they had multiple wide receivers with explosive plays in the area yesterday. So that's always good. So working progress, but that's always good. We continue. What happened at Alabama yesterday? You might wonder, I buried this a little bit into the segment because, as you know, we have a quarterback battle happening at Alabama. Do you remember when Tyler Buckner transferred in here from Notre Dame? Do you remember how I had a bunch of questions that we presented on the show about where Jalen Milro was going to transfer, where Ty Simpson was going to transfer and I said, why do you think they're going to transfer? I never thought Tyler Buckner was coming in to win the job. I never thought that I don't think that now. So maybe I was in the minority. I, to this day, don't think Tyler Buckner's going to win the starting job there. I've been back and forth pretty famously at this point on whether I think Milro, I guess I got an eyelash on my, on my nose. I've been pretty back and forth on whether I think Milro or Ty Simpson is going to win that job and it sounds like Jalen Milro had himself a pretty good day yesterday and I do think his skill set, if you think about what this offense is going to be this year and I think Nick Sabin's told you, we've told you over and over on this show, it probably fits what they're going to do this year better. But I will reiterate, as I have a million times, this would just be a million and one, I think they've done everything they can possibly do there, not to give Ty Simpson that job. That's not the way it works at Alabama, nor does it work that way anywhere where they win a lot. But the path has been cleared, you know, the sling blades out in front of all the sage brushes out of the way he's been given an opportunity, he has not taken it yet. And I don't think he did anything more to take it yesterday. And so if they had to tee it up and play, I think middle Tennessee state, is their opener, probably start Jesse at quarterback and it would be okay. But I think Jalen Milro would start for them today. Sounds like he had the best day yesterday. But here's the point, beyond the quarterback battle, their offensive line, I have told you several times in the spring and summer, I think is going to be quantum leaps improved at least to the naked eye as opposed to what you've seen the last couple of years. And it's only because I think they will be dedicated to a style of play this year. And dedicated conceptually to the style of play since spring this year that they haven't been. As they had a kid named Bryce Young there. So they go like seven or eight deep with guys they trust along that offensive line. There are a lot of battles happening. But like, you know, Kaden, whether Kaden Proctor can start at left tackle is the most first world problem imaginable because of who you have there if he can't start there. Another dairy and doubt courts going to start for them is one of the most first world problems you can have because they're starting everywhere else in the country. So I say that to say when I get feedback from Tuscaloosa and people say, Hey man, we got like three or four really high caliber SEC running backs on this team too. I say really do you. And then the rest of the country will find that out. And I think it's the style of play they'll have this year. So I say all that to say. I think they can win with high sense and or Jalen Milro at quarterback given the style of play. I think they're going to incorporate. But as we know with that style of play there is low margin for error. They do it right. They can do it as effectively as anyone low margin for error. There's not a whole lot of bail me out at the quarterback position third and 11, you know. So we've seen it before. I think they can do it again. It looks like it's starting to round into form there. What about Texas Texas quarterback situation not at the front. But beneath the surface. So at the front when yours is going to be their starter this year again, barring injury. But in spring, Malik Murphy showed off big time. Meanwhile archmanning sounded like he was drinking from a fire hose in the spring. Not the biggest surprise in the world. I think people had warped expectations because he's archmanning. So it's not spring anymore. I checked the calendar today. I had stats and info confirm it. We're in fall camp and archmanning had a pretty good scrimmage yesterday. Not battling at the moment for the starting job, but remember you Jesse, I think it was after spring or maybe it was in spring. So Sark said that there was still a quarterback battle. There was competition at the quarterback position. And we talked about it on the show. I look in the comments. And we got like a million people saying, how can you have a competition at quarterback? You know who's going to start. And I said, knowing who your starter is doesn't eliminate competition in the quarterback room. And I kid you not. We had a fight. Like we had a verbal fight in the comment section from people saying, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The definition of competition is to be fighting over a position. When you know who's won the job, the competition is over. Competition is not a race. Competition is a culture. And so archmanning knows that, everyone at Texas knows that. So he's bought into it. And he never stopped competing and lo and behold, looks like he may be making a move on the depth chart. I don't know this because it was one scrimmage yesterday. But he has apparently gotten leaps and bounds improved from what people saw in the spring. Again, he's a true freshman. This should not be the biggest surprise to everyone. We also know the quality of competition he played in high school was very much at the forefront of the debate about whether he should or should not have been the number one player in the country. And my argument on that was always, you are who you are, despite your competition level, you are who you are. So keep an eye on that for future reference. Keep an eye on that. They had AD Mitchell step out yesterday in shine. AD Mitchell's the transfer wide receiver from Georgia. Not a surprise. Xavier Worthy, excuse me, Xavier Worthy, I think was limited yesterday. My man won't be limited during the season, okay? Take it from me. I haven't spoken to him. But just take it from me. I've taken it upon myself to speak for him. If you're my dark horse preseason, Heisman candidate, hand to God, you will have a very healthy season. So I'm not worried about this. But in the meantime, it sounds like AD Mitchell had a really good day yesterday. They love Alfred Collins. On defensive line, he's 65, 315, he's from the class of 2020. That's the guy when I talk to some people around Texas that they say, just circle Alfred Collins. They're going to be, man, I'm talking a lot about Texas here in the positive. I think they're going to be really, really good. If they have Alfred Collins and they have those guys, it looks like they have on the interior of their defensive line. I know it's been easy to run on Texas in the past. I don't think it's going to be so easy to run on them this year. And so I think about that when I listened to what I heard from the scrimmage yesterday, I think about Anthony Hill at Linebacker, John Tay Cook at Wide Receiver, Malik Mohamed out there at Corner. There are a number of true freshmen that are going to be impact players here. So we had Sark on the show last week, and you may remember, he said, we've got like a perfect mix of veteran guys and then really, really a young infusion of talent that's about to happen. And that's kind of how their scrimmage played out yesterday. I wanted to hit one more. Let's go to Nebraska. Xavier Betts left the team. Xavier Betts gone. And he was a guy at Wide Receiver that figured to fit into their starting rotation. Now, irresponsibly, I didn't make a call on this today. I probably could have, but we were swamped. And so I just know for personal reasons, he's left the team. That was confirmed by Matt Ruhl. And then Matt Ruhl went on to confirm they're probably going to need two true freshmen minimum to step up and play meaningful downs for them. Malik High Coleman, maybe one of them. So again, we're in somewhat of a rebuild mode at Nebraska. Not quite, torch the barn, kill the rats, burn it to the studs and build from scratch. Not quite that, maybe culturally, but not quite that in terms of talent roster, over under a six and a half wins. But the defense won the scrimmage. That's a headline from all over the country yesterday. The defense did win the scrimmage. Whoo, scrimmage intel. It's a wonderful, wonderful thing. We finally start to learn some things. We finally start to be able to mold our predictions responsibly instead of just trusting magazines. Appreciate you guys being tuned in live. If you are, we have got a jam pack show and I badly need you to subscribe to the channel. I want you to subscribe to the channel, truthfully we'll get by either way, but I want you to subscribe to the channel. So please do it if you haven't already and like the video while you're here. So what we have seated immediately to my left is a chalice of supremacy. You've seen one of these before if you've watched the show. Not for sale, but they can be one and the rules on how to win a chalice because one of you asked me this week. The rules to win a chalice are very simple, but also very, very vague. You have to somehow, some way, promote this show in a public manner and I don't mean stand out in your front yard and hold up a poster if you live in a cul-de-sac because there's not enough traffic coming through there. 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It's just that simple. Shipping information has been sent. It's been relayed to producer Jesse Travis. Your chalice is on the way. Drink responsibly. Next up, we are going to dive into a great big bag of what ifs. And the first one would shake some of you to your very core. Because I happen to know some of you hate Brian Kelly. And then I happen to know a few more of you don't like him. So think about this. Tanner hit us up. He said, what if LSU wins the SEC? He didn't say the West. He didn't say what if they go to Atlanta and get skull drug again. He said, what if they win the SEC? Well, that would be the definitive arrival of LSU back to tier one of college football. They certainly, I would imagine they make the playoff if they win the SEC. Like Hoomst doesn't these days if they win the SEC. Brian Kelly's perceptional transformation. I think would also kind of be complete at that point. The perception, let me take a second here. So the perception of Brian Kelly when he was at Notre Dame was one thing. And then the mistake people made is when he went to LSU, they thought the version of Brian Kelly they had seen at Notre Dame was his legit under the surface personality. No, no, no. What you're getting at LSU is the real Brian Kelly. He had just tightened the sweater vest a little too tight up there at Notre Dame. I'm not saying that's the wrong way to do things. Like I happen to love Notre Dame. I happen to think I'd be a half decent head coach at Notre Dame. I respect the traditions up there. I'm just saying some guys are a little looser and they pretend to be a little more, for lack of a better term uptight. And Brian Kelly goes to LSU and all of a sudden he's loose. He's enjoying things, he's enjoying life and people think it's fake. It's not fake. You're getting the real Brian Kelly now. Well anyway, if they were to win the SEC this year, the folks who dislike him for non football related reasons would at that point have to just shut up. What can you do at that point? The guy just won the SEC and he won it at the expense of Nick Sabin in this scenario. And this is its own set of issues for Alabama by the way. It looks like he won it at the expense of Kirby Smart in Georgia. Maybe like can you imagine that run? You go through FSU and an adult mess and Alabama and Florida and Texas A&M, then maybe you go to Atlanta and you face Georgia and you went all that. Mmm, those soft SEC 8 game conference schedules down there. It also means those portal defensive backs came through with flying colors. That's what happens. That's the what if scenario if LSU wins the SEC. Next up, why stop at conferences? Let's just go right to the college football playoff. Mark has hit us up and said, what if Oklahoma makes the playoff? Hmm. Well, they would virtually have to win the big 12. I don't think an at large is making it from the big 12 in a 14 field. Now you may hit pause here and you may say, well, that's a that's a pretty ignorant thing to say. An at large just made it last year. I know friends, but you need to understand something. You are not always what your record says you are. And in this particular case, Oklahoma plays one power five team with a preseason win total over eight this year. And that's Tejas. So if they lose to Texas, then first off, they're kind of behind the eight ball there for a lot of different reasons. But also if they lose to Texas, where's the best win they have? And so I think they got to win the big 12. I think they have to do that. Maybe they lose to Texas in round one and a tone forward in the conference title game. I guess that could happen. But Dylan Gabriel has shined in this scenario. If they're in the college football playoff, also defense defensively, they have to say defense has improved defensively. They've massively improved. I know there's a lot of focus on the offense out there. Defense was atrocious last year, like whoof atrocious. So it has to have massively improved. And speaking of perceptional transformation, what you saying about Brent Venables? If OU's in the playoff, and then think about this. So this is the one that Marcus didn't want to do. He didn't want to go this far with his what if. But I'll do it for you, Marcus, because I'm operating consequence free here. It's just what if, like what if I rob the bank? You can't call the cops, because I didn't do it yet. What if Oklahoma wins a playoff game? And Brent Venables does something Lincoln Riley never did in Norman, Oklahoma. And then you want to know the real what if in all caps? What if they beat USC? That's a bridge too far. Let's move on. The anti-producer Jesse Specialist next up, because one of you accused us of some pro-Penstate handling on the show. And the allegation was that Jesse has sort of infiltrated the production process. And he has wiped any negativity towards Penn State. And he's basically operating as a shadow promotional puppet for Penn State University within our midst, which is a tall allegation to get someone that you still can't even prove exists. So if Penn State, well, this is the what if, from David. What if Penn State loses to Michigan and Ohio State? If this happens, this is an uncomfortable, but necessary stat to read you. If they lose, Penn State loses to Michigan and Ohio State this year. James Franklin would be 4 and 14 against those teams. Not great. It could be the most hollow 10 and 2 season ever. You would have some really ridiculous conversation happening about whether James Franklin is the right guy for the job. Again, even if they go 10 and 2, they're doing it with Ryan Day right now. You know, good and well, they do it with James Franklin. And then I would just beat it now like a pinata, like we always have to do on this show. I need to know how they lost. That's what I need to know. I need more from this what if I don't, I need to know if it's 49, 14 or I need to know if it's a couple of three point games either way. Now you may say, doesn't matter, Josh, you are what your record says. You are a win as a win, a loss as a loss in the standings. That's true. But if we're talking about the perception of a coach, if we're talking about how close a program is, that stuff matters a whole lot. Michigan State's a good example. Michigan State last year lost a lot of games, but they got blown out at them. So I don't look at them the same way I would look at a team that lost five games by a combined 17 points. You know where I think one Bob, one bounce of ball here or there, could just change the trajectory of a season. Well, if Penn State were to lose by three TDs a piece to Michigan and Ohio State, man, that's a tough pill to swallow, even if you did win the other 10. But if they're close back and forth, I know it's hollow. I know it's like eating a sandwich where there's nothing in between, it's just bread. But 2024 is a season they've kind of been building towards up there anyway. It just so happens that they should be really good this year as well. What are we going to do? Or we're going to look at 10 and 2, losing two games to two potentially top four teams and say, ah, screw it. Just let's just punt on 2024. No, but at the same time, I get it. If you've watched the show a long enough time, you know I always tell you, if you give big, you should expect big. Simple return on investment principles. Penn State folks invest big. It's not too much to ask to be right there in the conversation with those two. Cause a Penn State fan up in Harrisburg looks at it or up in Bethlehem, looks at it or York or Wilkesbury, I'm just throwing out Pennsylvania Geography at this point. But they look at it and they say, what does a Michigan fan give that we don't? What are those folks in Columbus give that we don't? They think this way it takes a say in them. And they're right. What are they giving elsewhere that we're not? Well, the answer is nothing. And so if the answer is nothing, then the follow up phrase should be, all right, well, shouldn't we expect what they get? Shouldn't we expect some of that? Yeah, you should. So I'm not always the first to rush to the drum and beat the drum that, oh, you guys are, you guys are myopic. Oh, you guys are, your expectations are way out of whack. Hey, maybe in some cases they are, I don't think it's an out of whack expectation for a Penn State fan to say, I think every, every few years one of these division championships should be ours. I think we should split with Ohio State and Michigan on average every year. I don't think that's out of whack. And I think they have a reasonable chance to do it this year. How about this last one? Go out to the West Coast for a second. James said, what if Oregon State versus Oregon decides a PAC-12 title birth? Firstly, James, I want to tell you, I think I was well into my 20s before I understood that there was a version of the word birth that had an E in it. I'll just be up front with you about that. So James nailed it. And James is saying, Oregon State versus Oregon. It's Black Friday, Friday, right after Thanksgiving, last week of the year, rivalry week. James is saying, this game is going to decide half of the PAC-12 championship match up. One last civil war before Oregon jets off to the Big Ten and Oregon State falls off into the Pacific figuratively. All right, well, I would be entertained by it, but I'm already entertained by it because I do this crazy thing where I just love college football. So I'd love it anyway, but if you put these implications on it, wow. Now, I don't know that I could ever envision a program and a team in a more us against the world mindset at that point than Oregon State. Think about this. You got Oregon State versus Oregon. Winner goes to Vegas for the PAC-12 championship game and you're looking across the state now and you're looking down at Eugene and you know whether they win or lose this thing. They got all the Nike money in the world. They got new facilities popping up. They got a new uniform every five minutes. They're off to the Big Ten. They're fine. They're gonna be fine. Let it work. It works. It works for Oregon. You don't work for us in Corvallis. This is it for us for a little while. And so you're talking about if you had a third middle finger, you throw up all three of them in the case that you won this game because you're the one they didn't want. You're the one people have looked at and said, oh well, let's just watch them fade in the dust. But you end up winning it as the curtain drops on the PAC-12 as we know it. You end up winning that thing and then maybe you go and you win the whole thing. Maybe you win the PAC-12 championship. Maybe, again, since this is what if we can just do this, maybe I look at that odds board, Colin just threw up to win the PAC-12 championship. And I look at Oregon State there at plus 1,200 odds. What if the old beaves? They just, they just thwap, thwap, thwap, they're way to a PAC-12 championship. And they go to the playoff. The PAC-12 hadn't been there since Washington in 20, what it was, 16 or 17. What if they're the ones who do it and then they look around afterwards and say, oh, we don't have a conference anymore. Okay, cool. Great. All right. That's why what if is fun? You notice, none of that was predicted. It's just a what if? Trying to fix my screen over here. The live chat looks very lively tonight. I'm sure Bradley's in there closely moderating it though. Sure, nothing inappropriate's happening in there. Academy Sports and Outdoors, always appropriate. Why? Well, because they have everything you need. That's why. Academy Sports and Outdoors, I had one of you hit me up the other day and I think you got a kayak or a canoe. Can't remember which one. It was a really, really big flotation device, whatever it was. And it was up on top of the camper or up on top of the Jeep. You guys had a great time. All the assorted paddles and whatnot were available as well. I know if you hear sports and outdoors, you think to yourself bats and balls. You think a basketball goal, you may think a football, you may think cleats. Yes, in abundance, they have all of that. 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But Academy Sports and Outdoors, you're one stop shop for all things outdoors sporting goods plus. And if you can't get there in person, go to Academy.com as you covered. All right, why don't we talk about some NCAA related matters? I'm not talking about realignment tonight. Don't worry, kids. But what I would like to do is, I'd like to go in the mail bag, and I'd like to look at what Jim asked us. Colin, here's your end point. Jim from Macomb, Michigan. Good people in Macomb. Jim asked us, what do you think of the Harbaugh NCAA news? Now, this has been a fairly big story in college football, but it's not big enough where all of you know about it. So you know Jim Harbaugh and Michigan were being investigated for some potential rules violations during the COVID visitation period where everything was as fluid as fluid can be. And the allegations were they texted a recruit during a time not allowed. They had analysts serve on onfield roles. By the way, just let me cross my arms and shake my head. I mean, I don't know for the life of me who else has ever had an analyst serve in an onfield capacity. I go to these college practices and let me tell you, it is assistant coaches and head coach only whistle around the net, get all those analysts out of here, you better not be coaching that linebacker. No, no, no. Just Michigan and Michigan alone. I hope I've been pretty clear with the sarcasm. They also had coaches watch players work out via Zoom. Again, just tantamount to allegations that should send you to Guantanamo or Alcatraz if either were still open. So they're being investigated. And then Jim Harbaugh says, I didn't do anything. And the NCAA didn't believe it. So they've been negotiating a resolution. And Dan Wetzel from Yahoo Sports reported, I think last week they had reached an agreement. Yeah, it was two weeks ago because it was right before Big Ten media days. They had reached an agreement reportedly where Jim Harbaugh was just gonna sit out the first four games of the year. So they had negotiated a resolution. He's gonna be suspended against Colin. Do you have the schedule? It's like, I know East Carolina was in there. Rutgers was the only conference game. I don't have it memorized because it's Michigan's schedule. East Carolina, UNLV, Bowling Green Rutgers. That's why I didn't have it memorized. Thank you, Colin. So they weren't gonna lose any of those games. Well, update. There is no negotiated resolution and there is no an agreement on anything. So Jim Harbaugh now is expected to just coach the entire year with Michigan and the story is this may not get resolved to 2024. Naturally, inquiring minds want to know one thing and one thing only. We're in the world's Jim Harbaugh gonna be in 2024 because he tried to not be at Michigan in 2023 and 2022. Didn't matter or 21 and 22. Didn't matter, really. Because it didn't stop him from winning the Big Ten and going to the playoffs both years. But if you're like me, you don't necessarily think he's done flirting with the NFL. I think most Michigan fans understand. If you've tried it a couple of times, there's an interest in the NFL. By the way, I don't know if it's known out there or not. Cause I have not listened to a lot of other commentary on that. Jesse, you can tell me if I'm wrong here. Do people know that Harbaugh got offered the Denver job? Like, do people know that? Is it well known? Do people talk about that? Let me tell you, Harbaugh could have had an NFL job this past cycle. You didn't already know that. I'm telling you, he could have had that Denver job. The Denver job just sucked, so he didn't want it. So I think he'll continue to flirt with it. But in the meantime, it looks like we're going to kick the can down the road on the old negotiated resolution. Oh, wait, there's not one. So now we're going to go before the Koi, which is an acronym, COI for committee on infractions and they'll hand down a verdict. I like the approach. I told you from the outset, I give nothing to the NCAA. Respect included. I give nothing to them nowadays. We did a panel, the recruiting of personnel symposium was in Nashville this past weekend. And that's essentially where you get a bunch of people in a room who actually are in the weeds on the ground day to day working in college football and actually do have some tangible solutions and answers. Naturally, there aren't NCAA officials within five city blocks of the building because the last thing they'd want to do is be exposed to good ideas. So I'm over there and I'm moderating a couple of panels and we were talking about some of this and how antiquated the approach is. Now ridiculous, some of the approaches are. But also I was talking to some folks not on panels sort of off the record from certain institutions lately that have had to deal with the NCAA. And their thoughts were, what if you just, you didn't budge an inch? What if you lower it up, which Harbaugh has done? Tom Mars, maybe you've heard of him. And what if you really challenged them in the same way that some universities already have in the past? I am telling you, the answer is they fold like an accordion. This is not an institution with a spine. There's a reason you don't have a face of the NCAA. You, Charlie Baker? Charlie Baker is not running NCAA investigations. You don't know these people. You don't know them. For the same reasons you really don't know a lot of people administratively who get bills passed in Congress. They're not meant to be seen. They're under the rock. Like when you pick up the rock and you turn it over, this is really mean. I don't literally mean that there are those kinds of things, but I'm telling you, these are not people who like to operate in the light. These are folks who need to stay in the shadows of college athletics. And if you put them in the light, if you really put the pressure on them, they'll fold. They'll fold. And I think that Jim Harbaugh will either find that out the easy way, or it'll be irrelevant because he goes back to the NFL. But either way, I just ask you this. Imagine the conversation. Like Jim Harbaugh, knowing what you know about him and his personality. Jim Harbaugh with his representation is sitting in a room and whether digitally or in person, there are NCAA investigators asking him to admit to level one violations. And it's almost like when Pam tried to become the office administrator when there was turnover at Dundercam, which became Sabre, she just, she wants a raise. And she realized that as management had changed and ownership had changed, she saw a vacuum. She saw a hole and she just said, I'm gonna make the new management and ownership think I've always been the office administrator. And I'm gonna tell them I make a certain amount of year. And hopefully that with all the chaos going on, they'll just believe it. And it worked for a while. But then HR started to call her out. But here's the thing about HR. They didn't have evidence. They didn't have proof. So what happened is you get Gabe in a room and you get Pam in a room. Or in this case, you get Harbour in a room and you get an NCAA investigator in a room. And the NCAA investigator played by Gabe is saying, why don't you just admit what you did? And Harbour played by Pam sort of squints the eyes a little bit and they realize, oh wait a second, they don't have the goods on me. They just think they know something. Well, I'm not gonna admit anything. I'm not giving them an inch. And if you got something, throw it on the table. And then they get really uncomfortable because you're just supposed to play along. And Jim Harbour, play by Pam, is not playing along. That will probably end the same way it did for Pam. She got her job, she got her salary, and Jim Harbour will be fine. The end. You learned everything you need to know about NCAA procedures tonight if you're brand new to college football. They're wanching us in Denham Springs, Louisiana, Nashville, Tennessee, and in Wood West, Virginia. Thank you guys so much. If you're tuned in live, I wish I could put a kissy emoji, Bradley, if you're in there, could you put the kissy emoji in there for me? I'd just like to be really lively in the live chat. The University of Tennessee had a good last year, didn't they? They really had a good year. So they went 11 and two. Director Colin got to see multiple games in person from field level. And also, they got the NCAA investigation behind them. So what does 2023 have in store? Lots of people are hoping that 2022 was sort of an aberration, a flash in the pan, if you will. And the reason it sounds a little something like this. We already have to deal with Bama and Georgia in this conference. It looks like LSU is very quickly about to reestablish themselves. We cannot have Tennessee to deal with as well. But you may have Tennessee to deal with. They had the best record last year they've had since 2001. Y2K was not too far in the rearview mirror the last time Tennessee won 111 games. I think it's fair to say that I just paused for a hiccup. But I also think it's fair to say there is still some doubt around this program. There's still a little uncertainty. I have some. So I'm about to tell you the best case record for Tennessee this year, the worst case record, and what I think the likely outcome is. So best case for Tennessee this year, I think is 11 and one. I don't think it's that hard in theory to see how this would go. So Joe Milton in the best case just explodes. And if he explodes, then all those wide receivers pan out. Dante Thornton, remember he transferred in from Oregon. And so Squirrel Whites there, in this scenario, he just burst onto the national scene. Brumiko is there, Ramil Keaton. Like they have a three or four headed monster in the receiver room. They're good. Also, I think they need to split the games against Bama in Tuscaloosa and then they get Georgia in Neal and Stadium late in the year. And they also need to show legit separation from tier two and tier three. So Tennessee to go 11 and one, they need to be up there with Georgia or Bama or replace one of them in any given year. That's what they need to do. They can't be amongst, you know, like, they can't be amongst LSU and Texas A&M or Auburn or whoever ends up making tier two and tier three this year. There needs to be separation. That's how they go 11 and one. But in the worst case, Colin, I want you to keep punching the show but plug your ears in there. The worst case for Tennessee this year, I think is seven and five. And in theory, this one's also easy. It's just the exact opposite of what I said. This is the scenario a lot of people are hoping for outside of Knoxville and that is Joe Milton is not Hindenhooker. And that is it wasn't a system thing last year as much as it was a really good player thing. And so with Jalen Hayet gone, you can't fill that void like you thought you could. With Hindenhooker gone, you can't fill that void like you thought you could. Maybe the wide receiver room's just down a notch. Maybe defense doesn't improve any. Maybe defensive line is too thin. Maybe that defensive back room is still a liability. Maybe the offensive line battles that we've been talking about throughout fall camp. Maybe they just yield an average result. Maybe we find out it was just a battle of a bunch of fairly good to kind of good. That's your worst case. And then also as always in worst case, injury happens. So seven and five is the worst case. What is the most likely record for Tennessee this year? I think the most likely record for Tennessee this year is nine and three. This is not what's possible mind you. This is what's likely. Nine and three is what I arrived at as most likely. You cannot convince me that in the most likely of scenarios there's not some offensive regression from last year. It doesn't have to be catastrophic. But there has to be some pulling back to the pack. You cannot praise Hendon Hooker and the chemistry that offense had last year in one breath. And then also try and tell me, oh, it'll just happen again this year with a new cast of characters. Josh Hyple can be the best in the world and that's still not the way it works. At Bama and versus Georgia, it's tough to just pencil in a win against either of those. I saw what happened last year guys. You don't have to remind me. I saw what happened. But let's just say for the sake of argument, let's say they lose those games. There's still this other batch of games at Florida week three. Like your first time taking, well, they got a neutral site game, but your first time really taking Joe Milton on the road as you're starting quarterbacks in the swamp. And that's early in the season where even if Florida's bad this year, they don't know they're bad. What if Florida lost a Utah in week one and they're in desperation mode, they're in wounded animal mode in week three. And you go in there and you're just telling me up 38-13, we'll roll out of there, barely a grass stain on the jersey. That's not the way it works in the SEC. You guys know that. So you got them, you got South Carolina A&M. At Missouri the week before you go to Georgia, it's not easy. So nine and three is a good year. Tennessee is a very good team going nine and three. That to me is the most likely path for them this year. But as I told you, there are paths that go horribly right and horribly wrong mixed in that bash as well. I always picture in the prediction phase. I always picture like us dumping 100 simulations of the season into a barrel, like the NBA draft lottery. And we just spin the barrel or the hopper, whatever they call it. And we pull out one little ping pong ball. And whatever's in that ping pong ball, that's the version of the season we got. There's a 12-0 in there, you know that, right? There's probably like a six and six in there. But there's a whole lot of nine and three or eight and four or 10 and two. So that's why I went nine and three. It's time to name the Pate State All-American team, offensive side of the ball. We have been very excited about this here. We are a committee of a little over one, but we're very serious about this. So it's not very hard to see where we're going with quarterback. RQB1 is the same one that just won the Highsman Trophy. A few months ago, it's Caleb Williams, 42-5 touchdown to INT ratio last year. And hungry too. Like, yeah, there's personal accomplishment, but they didn't even win a conference title last year. Plus he was hurt in that conference title game. So I love that blend. Like you've got the best quarterback in the country, would have been the first pick in the draft this past cycle if he was eligible. And also we've seen him at Elite 11, two years in a row hit the crossbar from the 50-yard line. So not that that matters in the game, but it's impressive nonetheless. But you need to know something about paid state-all-Americans. This is not a career lifetime achievement award. I care about your stats, but I care about what you're going to do this year. And so this year, Quinn Ewers is my number two quarterback. He's my second team all-American quarterback. I know Michael Penix has got better number. I know a lot of guys have done more, but I think Quinn Ewers is going to do big things this year. It's not just because of the haircut either. So you can save that in the comments. Elite skill set, the cast around him, I think is where it needs to be. The offensive line in front of him, I think will be where it needs to be. I thought 2023 was always going to be the year for him. I know because of how many stars we're next to his name and how high the accolades list was coming out of high school. I know that it kind of got out of whack. This was the year, this will be the year for him. He's going to have a phenomenal season if help is not an issue. And I think that while he was the 2022 Big 12 Newcomer of the year, you could be looking at Big 12 2023 player of the year. I think that highly about his potential this year. What about the running back position? You know, Blake Korum was on a roll last year, man. It's a shame he got hurt. Blake Korum was on a roll that may have seen him end up in New York City as a Heisman Trophy finalist. I remember we were at the Ohio State Michigan game and I watched him go out and try and warm up. He had knee braces on. He had a knee brace on that knee under his under his pants, thicker than anything Stone Cold Steve Austin Warder in the attitude era. Just unbelievable. Tried to go, couldn't make it through warmups, all the respect in the world for him. Saw him at Big 10 media days, a couple of weeks ago. Totally fired up. Love that he gets to work alongside Donovan Edwards. So it didn't have to carry it 35 times a game. But total focus, like that's my that's my RB one. That's a first team paid state all American at running back this year. Quinn Sean Judkins, down in Oxford Mississippi, is right there. He was at SEC media days, actually. It's crazy, by the way, when you talk to people at Ole Miss and they say, oh, Quinn Sean, he came in so shy. And then you talk to him and he sound like he's a Fortune 500 CEO. He carries himself very, very well. He's a sophomore. There are very few sophomores at media days, by the way. Ole Miss led Power 5 in Rush Yards in 2022. Number four there. You see his tail lights. He's a big reason why. And now he's got a full year in an SEC strength conditioning program, proper nutrition, yada, yada, yada. I love the fact also, selfishly, for the running back position, that there's not really a prolific quarterback at Ole Miss. At least it doesn't look like there is. So they're going to ride him and ride him a lot again this year. I think Rocket Sanders deserves conversation here. Nick Singleton, certainly up at Penn State, could end up being the best in the country. They've got a lot of good running backs in college football. But I'm going Coram and Judkins as my one, two. The wide receiver position, probably the easiest starting point in all of college football, aside from quarterback, is to figure out, where am I going with my first overall wide receiver on the State All-American team? Marvin Harrison Jr. Put someone in jail if they say otherwise. Marvin Harrison Jr. is a generational talent at wide receiver. I don't think I use that word very much, but he is that. Marvin Harrison Jr. walks into our room a couple of weeks ago. We got to interview him up in Indianapolis. He's nervous. I have no idea how. I just know that he walked in. He was, I mean, it's, oh, where do I look over here? Is the mic in the right place? All right, let's go. I'm ready. And to me, while you see him on the field, and he's just an assassin, and I think to myself, how can someone who does what this dude does? He doesn't even care about how he carries himself in this setting. But anyway, Marvin Harrison Jr. is the best wide receiver in college football. Now, number one's easy. Where would you go for number two? Xavier Worthy is my number two receiver on the paid state preseason All-American teams this year because I believe he's going to have a monster year. I got him as a dark horse Heisman contender. And this is about what I think you're going to do this year, not necessarily what you have done. We had Sark on the show last week, and he said, man, we've put a lot on his plate the last two years, really more so than we should have had to put on his plate. And he's never complained. He's just been there. He's gone to work. Well, this year, it's a little more opportunistic when you put it on his plate because they got Whittington back. They got AD Mitchell out there. They got, hopefully, Isaiah and they are healthy. They got that tied in. And they, so they got a lot of really, really good pieces, got good backs in the back field, got a good quarterback. I'm saying that to say they can feed him the ball when they want to. Instead of just having to do it out of necessity all the time. I want to go to Washington for my number three receiver. Roma Dunze is 6'4, 2'15. He had 75 catches over 1,100 yards receiving last year. They, they led Washington led all of power five in passing offense. And he was the number one receiver on the team. And he's back this year. He floored it with the NFL. So I think big things are on the way from him again. He's already done it. The tied in position. I said quarterbacks easy. I said wide receivers easy. There's a look, Marvin Harrison, Xavier Worthy, Roma Dunze, Ameca Ebuca at Ohio State also really in that thing. The tied in position. The paid state, all Americans at the tied in position. I can start nowhere, but Brock Bowers. I don't need to list his accolades. You've seen him play would have been the number one overall tied in in the draft this year if he came out. Could be their leading receiver at Georgia again this year. He was last year. He's the best pass catcher they have on that team right now. But behind Brock Bowers, Jettavian Sanders is where I'm going. Jettavian Sanders, imagine the opportunities here. I just talked about him a second ago. That's why I took that tied in. Jettavian Sanders is the tight end at Texas. And I think about him the same way when Sarc was at Alabama. I think about some of those tight ends that just kind of got lost in the shuffle. And then all of a sudden there they are, 60 yards to the house. Jettavian Sanders could have a really big year. He did last year. He was first team all big 12 last year. So he's not coming out of nowhere. I just love the possibilities that are on his plate this year. So Brock Bowers, Jettavian Sanders, those are the two tight ends. Offensive line. We had to go back and forth a little bit. Do you just put all tackles or do you put a whole lot of guards at guard and a whole lot of tackles at tackle? Well, here's what we did. We took Cedric Van Pram, noted viewer of late kick confirmed by him a couple of weeks ago. We put him at center. Also, he's really good. We put him at center, big returning player for Georgia. Olu Foshano at offensive tackle. Penn State, Kelvin Banks. Almost wrote Kelvin. Kelvin Banks at Texas is only a second year player. You could be using the word generational with him, the more people watch him. Also got Cooper Bay Bay at first team all American last year at guard. Got Zack Zenter at right guard. Could have put Joe Alt here. Could have put JC Latham here. Could have been Zack Frazier. Could have been in there. So it was tough to whittle that list down of all Americans. But that is your offensive team for the paint state preseason all Americans. And I think we need to be fancy and we need to have trophies at the end of the year for it. And I'm just putting that out there if anyone wants to sponsor that. Before we leave you tonight, I need to get some bold predictions on the record. I need to take a sip from the chalice. We did not drain it tonight. Good for me, by the way. Had a very, very spirited show the other night. First time in history that we've ever completely drained the chalice. Bold predictions, chapter 30. What do you think will happen this year that you would bet your own money on? Well, this one sounds bold, but it's not really bold. Max from Birmingham, Alabama said the ACC will not have a team in the top 20 of offensive points per game. Now, you think that's one of the power five conferences, a couple of preseason top seven ish teams over there. How are they not going to have an offense in the top 20? Well, what did they do last year? Last year, they had two of them in the top 20, FSU and Wake tied at 16. So they snuck two of them in their last year. So producer Jesse walks in today, he got a look in his eyes. Ever since he came back from Albania, he's had a look in his eye a lot for different reasons, but he comes in the office today and he says, I've got the stat to end all stats in regards to the ACC. And I said, in regards to like who talks like that? Give it to me, Jesse. So he gave it to me, he said, there are eight first year guys at offensive coordinator in the ACC, but it gets better. He said there are five more with only one year of experience. It's a bad angle. They're only, so do the math here. Eight plus five is 13. There are only 14 teams in the conference. So 13 of 14 offensive coordinators in the ACC have one year of experience at their current program or less, which is mind bottling is one of my buddies would say. Mind bottling is the rest of the population would say. And so what that screams is we could have offensive inconsistency. There's been a lot of churn on offense. And yet I look back and I say, yeah, but we do have FSU. Like all we need is one in the top 20. We got FSU. We got Clemson. I'm making this a 7.75 though. Like I see a world where this actually happens. This is a really good prediction, by the way, because we had to dig on that one. So 7.75, the ACC won't have a top 20 points per game scoring offense. Next up, this is bold, but I like it. Taylor from Murls Inlet, South Carolina. I think we filmed some of our banks up there. Taylor said, Spencer Ratler throws for 4,000 plus yards. Well, I'm telling you, that's a nine and a quarter, but I love the enthusiasm here. So that's a nine and a quarter on the boldness scale. In 2022, he had just over 3,000 passing yards in 13 games. So we got to find a spare 1,000 yard somewhere. Can we do it? Well, four power five quarterbacks did it last year. So it's pretty tough, but it can be done. Here's the bad news. I turn the paper sideways for this. Stats and Info tells me they face eight defenses in the preseason top 40 of S&P plus. They face three in the top five. So it's not going to be easy. New offensive approach last year though. You remember how there was that pesky little scoreless game offensively? They had it floored them. And then they hung over half a hundred on Tennessee the next week. And we found out later, yeah, they changed play calling. They changed offensive procedures internally. And that's why that happened. OK, well, then they hired a new offensive coordinator period this year. But if you want to believe in this, if you want to believe that Spencer Ratler could throw for 4k this year, it probably behooves you to know that in those final three games, where the changes were made, he threw for 438, 360 and 246. So there was a three game stretch after they changed their offensive approach. He threw for over a thousand yards just in three games. So yeah, maybe, maybe they'll need to throw the ball a lot this year. Not sure what they have it running back. I know one of their best receivers didn't scream a gesture today. I believe they plan on getting him back. So good wide receiver core questionable running back group. They're going to have to throw it a lot. Still pretty bold, oh man, 4,000 yards is a lot. So I'm putting 9.25 on that as MI on this next prediction. Cooper hits us up from the home of the Gamecocks, Columbia, South Carolina. But Cooper said Arizona and Arizona state will both have winning records. Well, I don't think they will. So this is a 9.25. But let's humor ourselves for just a second. What are the win totals here preseason, overunders, 4.5 for each one of them? So someone's got to lose games. One of the most inconvenient truths in college football. For every winner, there has to be a loser. For that matter in life, it pretty much works the same way, although I know some of you in your social circles would come back to me and say, I see more losers than winners. So that I say get new friends. Because Mimaw told me that and I'm just relaying it to you. But Arizona and Arizona state are like on the bottom tier of pack 12 football this year. Or at least it looks like that on paper. So the loss is half to pile up somewhere. For every conference win, there has to be a conference loss. Here's the problem as I see it. Vegas has half a dozen teams in the pack 12 of the preseason, over under win total of eight and a half or higher. It's really crazy. So either Arizona and Arizona state are knocking off a handful of them. Or they're going to just completely trade places. One of them is going to trade places or two of them are going to trade places. Or this is not going to happen. And I just tend to lean towards it's not going to happen for both of them to make the jump. You need multiple upsets and that's tough to see. So I'm going to make it a 9.25. I look, I feel the energy in both places, but having a winning record. Like that's not even six and six. That's seven and five for each one of them. That's a 9.25 easy. Lastly, the big 10 champion, according to Max from Savannah, beautiful Savannah, Georgia, Max said the big 10 champion will beat the SEC champion in the playoff or the national title game. So in the postseason, the big 10 champ beats the SEC champ. It's happened one time. When was it? In 2014. Exactly. Yes. You guys got it. That was Ohio State over Alabama and I believe the first playoff. So that was a sugar bowl. I remember that pretty vividly actually. So I was Zeke Elliott does as well. The SEC champ versus the big 10 champ in the playoff. What do you think the record is head to head? You would think this has happened a lot. It hasn't. It's happened three times. In the SEC's champ is two and one against the big 10's champ. You're going to find SEC versus big 10 matchups more frequently. We're talking about champ versus champ. Imagine the chirping though. If the big 10 pulls us off, if Michigan beats Alabama, if Ohio State beats Georgia, if Penn State beats LSU, the chirping right in the middle of conference realignment, right in the middle of a time where for some unknown reason, there are people in Madison, Wisconsin. And there are people in Auburn, Alabama that are chanting big 10 and SEC because they're taking a wrecking ball to the rest of the sport and they're catching checks. You'll never see a dime from. Imagine the chirping in big 10 country if this happens. I would encourage you not to participate. Silent fist bump should suffice. That's a wrap for our show tonight. I appreciate you guys so much. Remember, we're back to three shows a week. So Tuesday night, Thursday night, we're here. Make sure you're not just subscribed to the channel. Make sure five of your friends are subscribed to the channel because 200,000 subs does not come easily. And so I need you guys to help us as you always have and as I hope you always will. 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