Alright, before you ask, yes, I know spending $9,000 on a dog is absurd, and it's extreme,
but when you don't have any human children, you get to waste all your money on your four
like-ed ones.
Welcome back to this week's episode of The Money with Katie Show Rich Family.
I am your host, Katie Gatti Tossan, and today we are talking about the pet insurance decision.
Now I maintain that one of the hardest things about being an adult is discerning which types
of insurance are a total rip-off and which are actually worthwhile.
There are a surprising amount of perspectives online.
You've got on one end of the spectrum literal insurance salesman who will recommend a whole
life policy to a 23-year-old teacher making $40,000 per year with no dependence, yeah.
And then on the other end of the spectrum, you have Pete Adney of Mr. Money Mustache who
famously does not even carry health insurance because he says he self-insures instead.
One such I am unsure if this is legitimate or a scam product is pet insurance.
So growing up, my family and I always had at least four stray cats living in our house
at any given time, and my parents never carried any pet insurance, so I was surprised when
it was offered as a benefit at my first job, and depending on who I asked, I heard wildly
different experiences.
Some people swore it absolutely saved them, and they would never go without it.
Other people insisted, hey, this is a huge waste of money, it didn't end up covering
anything worthwhile, and so in other words, it sounds representative of the polar opposite
experiences people have with insurance, whether or not they end up needing it.
According to a market watch survey, about 45% of pet owners carry insurance, and making
matters more complicated, each and every policy is different.
And it's worth acknowledging, at the outset, these insurance companies don't lose, right?
At the aggregate level, they make money because they are collecting more in premiums than
they are paying out in claims, and they employ a bunch of people to find ways to deny coverage
so that they don't have to pay.
And that is the quiet part that we're going to say out loud today.
But when my dog, Georgia, aka Georgia Beans, aka Hensforth referred to as Beans, got sick
in 2022, I found myself routinely thinking, gosh, I really wish we had pet insurance.
So today, we're going to do the math.
We're going to simulate an alternate reality wherein we carried pet insurance for Beans.
To determine, is it cheaper to carry pet insurance or to self-insure when things go wrong?
We're going to try to figure out where the tipping point is, and in order to do so, I am
subjecting my Gmail to an absolute onslaught of marketing materials by pretending to take
out the same policy on her that we would have taken out when she was just a wee puppy
lass in 2018.
Through this example, I think it'll become obvious why the right decision is not always clear.
So our methodology, pretty simple, knowing what we know now will calculate how much we
would have spent on premiums over the years leading up to her medical needs, and then
figure out what portion of her medical expenses using real costs would have been covered
by the insurance policy, and then compare it to what actually happened, aka no insurance
just vibes.
I'm requesting quotes from a company called embrace pet insurance, mostly because my
next door neighbor told me that's who she has and she likes them, henna vouched.
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So for context in 2022, beans had a slew of health problems that seemed to kind of come
out of nowhere, because except for needing a prosack prescription a few years ago, she
had been a really, really low maintenance dog.
But in 2022, it seemed like something new was going wrong every couple of months.
So at first we noticed she was losing weight, we took her to the vet, they couldn't figure
out why, which is never what you want to hear because typically it means you are about
to subject your dog and your wallet to a number of tests.
She then got some rogue blood work results back that suggested something might be wrong
with her liver question mark and long story short, we pinballed from specialty vet to specialty
vet, putting her through test after test to try to figure out what was going on.
Spoiler alert, it had nothing to do with her liver.
But we almost ended up doing a $6,000 yes, $6,000 liver biopsy.
Thank God, more blood work ended up revealing that the biopsy was not necessary.
So a few x-rays, other tests later, the vet figured out she actually had a condition called
EPI.
It has a long, fancy name that I won't bore you with evidently, very common in German
shepherds, but the illness means her pancreas does not make the enzymes needed to digest
her food anymore, which explained why she was constantly needing to go to the bathroom
in the middle of the night, why she was rapidly losing weight.
Now the punchline is that the medication for EPI is extremely expensive.
I am convinced that the Sackler family and Purdue pharma are somehow responsible for this,
because when I first got a bottle in October 2022, it was $190.
And by January 2023, three months later, it was $290.
Now the point is, she now requires roughly $300 per month in medication and specialty
food for the rest of her life.
Now that would have been upsetting enough, except for the fact that I'd one of her follow-up
meetings for her pancreas issues, the vet noticed a lump on her skull.
They were like, hey, what is this giant bump on her head?
So we did a series of biopsies on that, and found out it was a low grade bone tumor,
which needed to be removed.
So I sat down, I totaled up all of our charges for all of the vet visits and procedures
over the last six months, food and medication aside.
And I realized we've spent $9,000 on vet bills since September 2022.
The good news is that as of right now, beans is tentatively doing well.
She gained most of her weight back since the diagnosis.
Her tumor has not begun to regrow aggressively as far as we can tell, but to state the painfully
obvious, that is a lot of money.
So would pet insurance have helped?
And if so, how much?
You might think, wow, this is going to be night and day.
There was so much that went wrong in such a short period of time, pet insurance is a
no brainer.
So let's enter the pet insurance alternate reality and find out.
First I'm requesting a quote from Embrace on a German shepherd puppy, as though beans
were six to 12 months old with no known preexisting conditions to help us get the best rate.
And if I were to accept their most popular plan, it'd be $50 per month.
But almost immediately I am skeptical, right?
Because they're trying to steer me to a plan that's popular.
The translation in the UX world is usually, this is the most profitable plan for us.
Now, the $50 a month plan would get me a $5,000 annual reimbursement limit, a $750 annual
deductible, and a 70% reimbursement percentage.
So in layman's terms, this plan means you would pay $50 per month for the coverage.
You would be responsible for the first $750 in expenses each year.
And then they would reimburse up to 70% of each accepted, accepted, underlying that claim
up to $5,000 per year total.
But we can adjust the limits.
We can play around with them so we can increase our coverage to a higher annual limit.
We can lower our deductible.
We can make a higher reimbursement percentage, and that will increase the monthly premium
cost.
Which highlights how insurance is really always about running a constant cost-benefit analysis.
So before we try to figure out what the optimal level of coverage is, I'm going to create
a plan based on what I actually probably would have done had we gotten insurance at the
time, which is an unlimited annual reimbursement.
So we'll raise the annual limit, a $1,000 deductible, so a higher deductible typically
helps lower our monthly premiums, and then a 90% reimbursement rate instead of 70%.
So they'd cover 90% of our accepted claims after we spend our first $1,000.
Now that plan for baby beans would have been $88 a month.
It is worth noting this does not cover regular vet checkups.
Now today beans is almost 6 years old, but our health problems began in September 2022.
So that means if we had ensured her in January 2018, a month after my husband Thomas Godder,
we would have paid 57 months of premiums before ever needing the insurance for anything.
Prior to this past year, all of her expenses were standard and low they would not have surpassed
a $1,000 per year deductible.
So that means by the time she got sick, we would have paid $5,016 in premiums.
It appears we would have had our deductible in October because we racked up $1,000 of
costs by September 30th, and at that point, the insurance would have begun kicking in
at that 90% coverage level.
So if you're keeping track, that is now $6,016 out of pocket so far in the ensured alternate
universe.
The rest of the charges for the year 2022 totaled $3,940.
So then the deductible resets, right, because now it's January, so of those 2022 costs,
the insurance would have covered 90% per the plan, so $3,546, my husband and I would have
been on the hook for $394, which brings our total out of pocket costs in the insurance
world up to $6,674 when you also include the monthly premiums over that time.
In January and February of 2023, the costs were driven up by the major surgery to remove
the bone tumour, so a total of $4,116, of which we would have paid that $1,000 toward the
2023 deductible, and then $311 of the remaining $3,116 bill plus $176 more in premiums.
That is $8,161 out of pocket total in the insurance world as opposed to our actual costs
of $9,6.
We would have been $845 ahead had we carried that insurance plan on beans up until this
point, though it is worth stating that we don't know what the future holds, so if all
my hopes and prayers pay off, she will not have any more medical issues, and after nine
more months of paying $88 per month in premiums, we would then again be neck and neck with
our uninsured reality, which goes to show a crystal ball can make insurance planning
a lot easier, so if you can get your hands on one of those, do it.
It's also worth calling out that since $5,000 of our $8,161 would have been spread
out over 57 months of her life, it would have been easier to pay for, as opposed to lump
sums of $2,000 and $3,000 just weeks apart.
So now that we've looked at this hyper-specific example, let's talk averages and examine
what might be the optimal risk-reward strategy and how to think about it.
So according to MarketWatch, the average cost of pet insurance per cat is between $14 and $24
per month, and for dogs it's between $23 and $45 per month, depending on your insurer.
More over the breed of your pet changes premiums.
For example, a 10-year-old Yorkshire Terrier costs on average $65 per month to insure,
but a French bulldog costs $168 per month on average.
The cheapest dog breeds to insure are doxins, muts, and Australian shepherds that last
one surprised me they seemed pretty high-matins.
The most expensive are bulldogs, French bulldogs, German shepherds, AE, golden retrievers, labs,
and rot-wilers.
So we will link the full breed breakdown for MarketWatch in the show notes if you're curious.
There was less variation for cats by breed, and I actually couldn't find Samcats breed.
Tiny perfect tabby prints in the list, so who knows.
And when it comes to claims, the average claim amount paid for accident and illness plans
was $278, so I guess we really are just very unlucky.
And when it comes to providers, lemonade and fetch appear to be the only pet insurers
that do not charge monthly transaction fees and one-time enrollment fees, so something
else to keep in mind.
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So when analyzing, I like to call this the figuring out the best bank for your buck strategy
and then hedging your bets appropriately.
As you can see, beans had a ridiculous amount of things go wrong in very quick succession.
And it's still amounted to less than $10,000 total.
While I ran the initial math with the unlimited reimbursement, the monthly premium drops
by nearly 30% when you choose the next highest annual limit of $15,000.
Knowing what I know now, I am comfortable with declaring that $15,000 of annual coverage
per pet is probably a safe gamble for a pet owner to make.
If you took this same policy and you selected $15K instead of unlimited, but still with
that 90% reimbursement and $1,000 deductible, it would cost $63 per month, which is only
$3,500 over the five years before we would have needed to tap ours as opposed to $5,000,
which would have put insurance world around $2,300 ahead of reality.
And again, it is easy to make these decisions in retrospect, but this seems to be the
sweet spot where you get the most coverage bang for your buck.
And since every policy is different, here's how I like to think about this and determine
which level is the best.
So I can see that I would pay $50 per month for the first $5,000 of annual coverage, but
only $13 incrementally for the next $10,000 of coverage.
And at that point, the reward you stand to gain $10,000 of additional annual coverage
effectively costs you $156 per year.
That is an asymmetric reward for the cost.
Similarly, I can see that when I select 70% reimbursement, I'd pay $50, but bumping
up to 90% is an incremental $12 per month.
Since one of Beans's surgeries was $3,500, that's a difference of $700 in coverage on
just one surgery.
And an asymmetric reward to get an additional 20% of coverage on every single charge amounts
to $144 per year.
Lastly, I usually go for the larger deductibles because low deductibles tend to be expensive.
For example, if I were to make my deductible $250 instead of $1,000, the price of the coverage
would more than double from around $782 per year to $1,650 per year.
I'd be paying $868 more in premiums to save $750 on my deductible.
So you can see this is specific to this one insurer and playing around with this plan,
but you can use these same frameworks to think about your trade-offs.
Now the problem for us now is that any problems related to her bone cancer or her pancreas,
they're no longer covered because now they're considered pre-existing conditions, which
highlights the way the timing matters so much.
So it got me wondering, is there an ideal age to ensure your pet?
We mentioned earlier that ensuring a puppy when they're young and they have no pre-existing
conditions can help you lock in a low rate, but is that assumption true enough to justify
the likelihood that you are probably going to pay for years of premiums on a perfectly
healthy dog?
Getting pet insurance earlier in a pet's life can help offset and spread out the costs
of life-changing or end-of-life care, but when I was looking at the differences and
cost by age, per market watches research, there's not typically a large jump in price
from age one to five.
For example, for the mixed medium breed, the average price to ensure a three-month-old puppy
is $29, and the price to ensure that same dog at five years old is only $38, is nine
bucks more per month.
The largest jump in price happens between ages five and ten, which indicates to me that
from a pricing sweet spot and risk reward perspective at least, ensuring around age
five might be the best bet, and anecdotally at least that is when beans begin to have
her health problems, though obviously you can't extrapolate that to everybody.
If we had a crystal ball though, the best time for us to have gotten insurance coverage
for her would have been early 2022, right before she turned five.
You would have had no pre-existing conditions and only a few months of paying premiums before
we would have needed to tap insurance, and most policies do have waiting periods.
They don't want people to notice an issue with their pets, get coverage, and then immediately
try to use it, so you want to pay attention to any waiting periods that your potential
policy notes.
If you're thinking you may be able to get away with a little light insurance fraud with
your furry best friend, know that most insurance carriers require you to submit documentation
from the vet, so records, notes, you name it, that prove that there were no issues that
you knew about.
So how does pet insurance work when you actually go to use it?
Number one, you're going to visit the vet.
Number two, you're going to pay the vet.
So unlike health insurance for humans that can bill your insurance first, you are responsible
for paying all the vet bills at the time of service.
Then you're going to get an itemized invoice.
This is what you need to file your claim.
Then you're going to submit the claim with the invoice and any other required paperwork
to your insurance, then you're going to wait probably for months.
And then if you get approved, you'll receive reimbursement.
And remember, months.
So having pet insurance is not a substitute for having an emergency fund.
And jury's still out on us, whether or not we're going to take out policies now.
Because this exercise has been enlightening for me.
Because it's shown how we can get coverage for a relatively low monthly premium.
But I have to admit, I am not totally sold.
And I think part of my cynicism is informed by my experience with the US health care system,
where claims and billing get rejected are mishandled so frequently.
Half the time my insurance doesn't even work for the things that it says it will.
I recently took out an insurance policy for something else and I was reading the fine
print of the policy documents after I got it.
And realized that the scenarios it actually covers are so slim and specific that it's unlikely
it'll ever actually be of any use to me.
So suffice it to say, I believe in the concept of insurance, but I am skeptical of how it
works in practice.
And for us with Georgia's existing health problems and Sam's lack thereof, I'm still
on the fence over whether we're going to take out new policies for them.
The bottom line is that I love Sam and beans so much that I probably bankrupt myself trying
to save them before I would throw in the towel, which means I'm actually probably a pretty
good candidate for pet insurance.
But regardless of what I choose, I hope this helps you feel prepared to make a more informed
savvier decision about the coverage that you choose or don't choose to get for your
very own Sam and beans.
Alright y'all, that is all for this week.
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To its employees over the years, take a break because the dog is pregnant.
We had a good run, not bad.
Georgia!
Mommy's trying to pay the bills.
We got it beans.
At least in the beginning, okay?
Serenity hell.
No thing we blocked an hour and a half for this.